How do you know when the drywall anchor is fully expanded?

[Tokv41]

http://www.jula.se/e-Sales/esa/

I have bought an expander pliers and expander and am going to mount a TV in a single drywall... But for obvious reasons, I'm wondering how you know when it is fully expanded behind the drywall?

You can feel when it expands, but when is it fully expanded? I previously tried with a power drill and it went to hell...

 

[Farzan]

When you can't go any further, simply. Yes, it might not sound like much of an explanation, but when it's stopped, it's stopped, just...it's much easier with an expandertång, so I don't think you'll have any problems.

 

[imported_Benno]

There are limits to how hard you can pull. If you pull hard enough, it goes through the plaster. If you have an extra expander, you can always test on a loose plasterboard piece to see what actually happens on the backside.
The problem with screwing is that if the hole is slightly bad from the beginning, the whole expander starts to spin with the screw and then the hole is ruined.

Hope you have a light TV or that you can fasten at least a couple of screws right into a stud as well.

 

[nosslo77]

Hope you have a light TV or that you can at least fasten a couple of screws right in a stud as well.

Light TV? If you install the expander correctly, it can hold a lot. I've put up a bunch of shelf brackets on single drywall and they're rock solid 3 years later.

 

[Plupp 23608]

A Molly in simple plaster should withstand 30 kg shear force/ 10 kg tensile force in working load (for breaking load -multiply by 4x/6x).

 

[f91jsw]

If you have bought the expansion pliers available on Jula's website, I recommend returning them and buying a proper one, like this: http://www.clasohlson.se/Product/Product.aspx?id=135131957

I used one of the Jula-type in the beginning but it's useless. You have to gradually screw in the screw and start over, and it's very difficult to feel when you're done tightening. Additionally, you can pull it crooked if you're not careful.

 

[Tokv41]

The TV is a 42 thinner so it's not that light directly, but about ten Molly should hold it in place, right?

 

[Thomas59]

The TV is a 42-inch thinner model, so it's not exactly very light, but about ten Molly anchors should keep it secured, right?

10 Molly?

I have a 50-inch model that's mounted with 4 Toggles (drywall anchors) in single drywall. It's rock solid. I tried hanging from the wall mount. There were no problems with my hefty 110 kg.

 

[Tokv41]

10 Molly?

I have a 50-inch mounted with 4 Toggles (drywall anchors) in single drywall. It's as solid as a rock. I tested by hanging on the wall mount. There were no issues with my 110 kg.

Then I'll put a few less However, I want to be absolutely sure the TV stays put so no child gets hit in the head...

 

[raveper]

If you have bought the expansion pliers available on Jula's website, I recommend you return it and buy a proper one, like this: [link]

I started with a Jula-type one but it's lousy. You have to gradually screw in the bolt and restart, and it's very difficult to feel when it’s fully tightened. Furthermore, you can screw it in crooked if you're not careful.

Strange method you use. After the first pull with the pliers, you screw in the rest with a screwdriver with a suitable torque setting.

 

[Thomas59]

Strange method you're using. After the first pull with the pliers, you screw in the rest with the drill set to an appropriate torque.

It depends a bit on how far the pliers pull. If it pulls too short and you start screwing, the molly can start spinning and then it's a bit hopeless.

One disadvantage of molly compared to toggler is that the molly can pull very crookedly if you've managed to drill the hole right next to a stud. You always insert the toggler with the wings (or crossbar) horizontally to avoid that risk.

It's best to always check with a stud finder or at least knock as you can hear pretty well where the studs are.

 

[A-Man_08]

It depends a bit on how far the pliers pull. If it pulls too short and you start screwing, the molly can start to spin, and then it's a bit of a lost cause.

One disadvantage of molly compared to toggler is that the molly can pull very crooked if you've managed to drill the hole right next to a stud. You always insert the toggler with the wings (or crossbar) horizontally, so you avoid that risk at least.

It's best to always check with a stud finder or at least knock since you can hear pretty well where the studs are.

Borrowing the thread as we mounted the other day.
With the pliers fully expanded and the expander not fastened, is it just to screw the screw back again and expand again until it stops with the pliers?

Used one like this https://www.clasohlson.com/se/p/40-...zkKWBvLTZzx_CJIFG1Pc-lXlTz4GHS9waAliXEALw_wcB

 

[Stensson11]

Borrowing the thread as we mounted the other day. With the pliers fully expanded and the expander not fixed, should we just screw the screw back in and expand again until it stops with the pliers?

Used one like this [link] surfaces&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5oiMBhDtARIsAJi0qk1dS33S5PovrCdhtSo3QFszkKWBvLTZzx_CJIFG1Pc-lXlTz4GHS9waAliXEALw_wcB

Precisely

 

[Steffe Steffen]

If the plug is hanging a bit loose and not sitting tight, is there a solution for that? Screw it in even more?

 

[tergo]

if you're lucky you can screw more otherwise you have to use exspandertång