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How do I best frame a ball wall where there is no ceiling to attach to either?
I'm planning to build a ball wall for the boys inside the barn. The idea was to use tongue and groove boards 17x95 or 20x95. It will be about 5 meters wide and 3.5 meters high. Since the ceiling height in the barn is about 11 meters, I'll have to attach the studs to the existing wall (cement wall type) and to the floor (wooden planks). Are there brackets suitable for this type of idea, or how can I secure the studs to the wall in the safest way? I definitely don't want the whole wall to fall down, so I'd rather have 500 attachment points too many than one too few.
Not really sure what you mean here.
* What kind of balls are supposed to be hit against the wall? It makes quite a difference if they are for example tennis balls or soccer balls.
* Should it be flush against the existing wall, or a bit out?
If it should be flush against the wall, it's just a matter of anchoring some cross beams to the cement wall and then screwing the paneling into that. Use, for example, nail plugs or, even better, bolts in anchor compound (they really hold, I tell you).
* What kind of balls are supposed to be hit against the wall? It makes quite a difference if they are for example tennis balls or soccer balls.
* Should it be flush against the existing wall, or a bit out?
If it should be flush against the wall, it's just a matter of anchoring some cross beams to the cement wall and then screwing the paneling into that. Use, for example, nail plugs or, even better, bolts in anchor compound (they really hold, I tell you).
Footballs, tennis balls, basketballs.
The idea was to put up studs on the existing wall with cc60 oc and then attach the paneling to those studs.
The question was how best to attach the studs to the wall? It will be quite a large wall.
But this was just my idea. There might be better ways to do it.
The idea was to put up studs on the existing wall with cc60 oc and then attach the paneling to those studs.
The question was how best to attach the studs to the wall? It will be quite a large wall.
But this was just my idea. There might be better ways to do it.
There's nothing wrong with that idea, on the contrary.
As mentioned, drill for bolts, apply anchor adhesive, attach the bolts in this, attach the studs to the bolts, attach the tongue and groove to the studs. Properly executed, it becomes strong enough for use as a climbing wall.
I have used a system from Fischer, which was previously sold at Byggmax but seems to have been discontinued, where the anchor adhesive came in glass cartridges that you inserted into the drilled holes and then shattered when tightening the bolts. I can say those bolts are there for all time and eternity.
As mentioned, drill for bolts, apply anchor adhesive, attach the bolts in this, attach the studs to the bolts, attach the tongue and groove to the studs. Properly executed, it becomes strong enough for use as a climbing wall.
I have used a system from Fischer, which was previously sold at Byggmax but seems to have been discontinued, where the anchor adhesive came in glass cartridges that you inserted into the drilled holes and then shattered when tightening the bolts. I can say those bolts are there for all time and eternity.
Sorry if I'm being a bit slow. It doesn't feel like just a bit either....
"As mentioned, drill for bolts, add anchor compound, secure the bolts in it, attach the rails to the bolts"
Attach the rails to the bolts? The bolts I've already put in.....
"As mentioned, drill for bolts, add anchor compound, secure the bolts in it, attach the rails to the bolts"
Attach the rails to the bolts? The bolts I've already put in.....
Bolts are slightly thicker screws that you often use with a nut.
So what ricebridge is trying to say is that you make holes in appropriate places in your concrete wall and insert bolts. When the bolt is secured, it will protrude from the wall. Then you drill a hole in your beam and slide the beam onto the bolt. Then screw on a nut to hold the beam against the wall
Ricebridge has mentioned bolt with anchor compound. You can also use expansion bolts. They are quite cheap and also hold very well. If you want to use less heavy-duty items, nail screws/nail plugs will probably work as well. You can easily install the nail plug by first drilling a hole in your beam. Then hold the beam against the wall and mark the center point of the hole on the wall. Remove the beam again and drill a hole. Insert the plastic plug into the hole. Attach the beam. Then nail the screw in completely. You can then remove the nail plug again by unscrewing the screw. However, the screw (or at least the hole) is likely spent then. But hopefully, you won't need to unscrew it again.
So what ricebridge is trying to say is that you make holes in appropriate places in your concrete wall and insert bolts. When the bolt is secured, it will protrude from the wall. Then you drill a hole in your beam and slide the beam onto the bolt. Then screw on a nut to hold the beam against the wall
Ricebridge has mentioned bolt with anchor compound. You can also use expansion bolts. They are quite cheap and also hold very well. If you want to use less heavy-duty items, nail screws/nail plugs will probably work as well. You can easily install the nail plug by first drilling a hole in your beam. Then hold the beam against the wall and mark the center point of the hole on the wall. Remove the beam again and drill a hole. Insert the plastic plug into the hole. Attach the beam. Then nail the screw in completely. You can then remove the nail plug again by unscrewing the screw. However, the screw (or at least the hole) is likely spent then. But hopefully, you won't need to unscrew it again.
A bolt lacks threads. What do you use the nut for then?T tobbbias said:
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bult
I should probably clarify a bit regarding the material in the wall. Maybe change the suggested methods a bit? See picture....
Would ESSVE Heavy Load work?
http://essve.se/webcatalogue/infastning-gips-stenmaterial/689495-lattbetongskruv-heavy-load/
Or is an expansion bolt required?
Would ESSVE Heavy Load work?
http://essve.se/webcatalogue/infastning-gips-stenmaterial/689495-lattbetongskruv-heavy-load/
Or is an expansion bolt required?
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I have aerated concrete walls at home and I almost exclusively use nail plugs, which work very well for me. So well that I'll never use anything else. I only vary the size of the nail plug depending on whether it's a hat rack/TV wall mount/furniture, etc., that needs to be attached. However, when I built some new walls in the basement, I used expansion bolts in the concrete slabs.
But in your case, most of the force will be directed towards the wall 9 times out of 10. So there will not be large tensile forces pulling out from the wall if you're going to set up a backboard...
I would have used nail plugs.
But in your case, most of the force will be directed towards the wall 9 times out of 10. So there will not be large tensile forces pulling out from the wall if you're going to set up a backboard...
I would have used nail plugs.
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