This morning I discovered a hole in my concrete stairs. The hole was damp and below it was a substantial amount of wet "sand." What has happened? Can moisture penetration like this transform concrete into sand?

I've seen another similar hole (but smaller) in my basement wall down by the floor. Should I be worried about the wall's stability? Could the concrete behind the plaster be about to give way?

The basement is from '37 and is not drained, only fitted with tiles and silicate paint and heated. There are some discolorations and moisture ingress at the bottom part of the basement wall against the floor.
 
  • A hole in a concrete staircase with surrounding crumbling edges and wet debris beneath it, indicating possible moisture damage or erosion.
Åsa Lund
Have you salted the stairs in the winter?
 
Åsa Lund Åsa Lund said:
Have you salted the stairs in the winter?
Not me, but I don't know what the previous owners did. I've only owned the house for a short time.

You think it's salt explosion? But can it really turn concrete into wet sand? And can you really get it in the basement wall (heated basement)?
 
If it's concrete in the staircase, I don't think it has turned into sand. There may be sand behind/under the staircase that has been washed out by water that flowed in behind.
 
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-RB- -RB- said:
If it is indeed concrete in the stairs, I don't think it has been transformed into sand. There might be sand behind/under the stairs that has been washed out by water running in behind.
I have an exactly similar sandy hole (with wet sand below) on the inside of my basement wall which I know is made of concrete.
 
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Are the stairs and basement really made of concrete? I'm speculating now, but Platsjournalen walls despite I thought was a later invention and that most of the time they were built and plastered.

I would bet my money that it's the mortar between the stones that has dissolved.
 
The staircase is probably not cast in solid concrete but consists of a thin shell of concrete around an interior of stone, sand, and gravel to save money...
 
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Staffans2000
That's how it is.
Mine was the same.
 
It is correct that the staircase has not been cast straight again. But how should I understand the corresponding hole in the basement wall? I have quite large sections where the plaster is gone and no seams are visible (which should be present between the lightweight concrete blocks), however, I have what seems to look like rebar.

Adding a picture of the basement hole. However, the "sand" has dried somewhat and turned more into gravel.
 
  • Close-up of a basement wall with a hole, showing some dried plaster and exposed areas with debris resembling sand or gravel.
If it is from -37, it is probably so-called krigsbetong, which is cement of lower quality with a lot of filler such as gravel and sand used during World War II, and which easily crumbles.
 
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The war started in 1939, so no war concrete 1937.

Our former barn from 1927 is constructed with an inner and outer layer of standing cement plates, approximately 50x300x500 mm. To connect the outer and inner layers to each other, iron rods are embedded. Then the cavity is filled with sawdust, so where the wall has cracked, the sawdust seeps out.

I know of a basement floor that is built in the same way but where the wall is filled with coal dust.

Could your basement also be built similarly but with the wall filled with regular sand instead?
 
Despite the year, it may be that the builder was thrifty and skimped on the materials. I was going to fix an uneven concrete slab, and instead of breaking it up, it was fine to just use an industrial vacuum and tap the vacuum pipe on the slab to loosen everything. The concrete was more like sand than solid.
 
It is concrete all the way through, but likely they were stingy with the cement.

What is the best way to repair the damage? Knock away everything loose and then fill the hole with regular (fine) concrete?
 
What was the solution in the end?
 
Brought in a condition assessor who noted that it was wartime concrete. Found that there was no threat to structural integrity and recommended tidying up with regular repair concrete. To be done when the weather becomes more stable.
 
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