Hello again!
I have a new problem.
Plasterboard 900x2400 on horizontal studs.
I assume that the boards are placed vertically, i.e., 900 is against the ceiling/floor. Are "braces" needed at the board joints?
Behind the horizontal studs are vertical studs 145x45 with cc600.
Wall 1. Horizontal studs 45x45 with cc600. Single plasterboard.
Wall 2. Horizontal studs 45x45 with cc450. Double plasterboard. Wet room wall.
I have a new problem.
Plasterboard 900x2400 on horizontal studs.
I assume that the boards are placed vertically, i.e., 900 is against the ceiling/floor. Are "braces" needed at the board joints?
Behind the horizontal studs are vertical studs 145x45 with cc600.
Wall 1. Horizontal studs 45x45 with cc600. Single plasterboard.
Wall 2. Horizontal studs 45x45 with cc450. Double plasterboard. Wet room wall.
Hmm, no answers. :-/
After some searching, I have another solution. It's easy to get stuck in one's thoughts. Mentally, I've placed my inner secondary beams horizontally (and almost every sketch available online, etc.), connecting the primary beams (the load-bearing ones).
Following Paroc's tips, I saw that you place the secondary beams directly against the primary beams (looks like a very thick beam, in my case 45+145x45, i.e., 190x45) and squeeze the plastic in between. This solves many problems for me.
Any opinions?
After some searching, I have another solution. It's easy to get stuck in one's thoughts. Mentally, I've placed my inner secondary beams horizontally (and almost every sketch available online, etc.), connecting the primary beams (the load-bearing ones).
Following Paroc's tips, I saw that you place the secondary beams directly against the primary beams (looks like a very thick beam, in my case 45+145x45, i.e., 190x45) and squeeze the plastic in between. This solves many problems for me.
Any opinions?
The purpose of having 2 different studs is to minimize heat losses. Therefore, the vertical and horizontal should be placed against each other, resulting in just a surface of 45x45 that lets through cold... otherwise, it would be 45xstud length.
Argh,
do you think there will be a problem with the inner secondary rule and primary rule against each other? I also have an outer secondary rule and it is mounted "across", i.e. horizontally. Total insulation 45+145+45=235
If it's a problem, I have to set the inner ones horizontally. But then the original question is back, how to set the drywall?
do you think there will be a problem with the inner secondary rule and primary rule against each other? I also have an outer secondary rule and it is mounted "across", i.e. horizontally. Total insulation 45+145+45=235
If it's a problem, I have to set the inner ones horizontally. But then the original question is back, how to set the drywall?
Place the plasterboards in the way that fits best, you must add noggings so that all joints end up on a stud. Since the dimensions of the boards and the center-to-center measurement of the studs don't match, I assume that standing plasterboards will be the simplest.
But..
with noggings, it creates a nice grid pattern, so I might as well put the interior studs vertically directly against the primary studs as I wrote above?
Or do you mean that the noggings should NOT end up on the primary studs (to avoid thermal bridging according to jkpg_peter).
with noggings, it creates a nice grid pattern, so I might as well put the interior studs vertically directly against the primary studs as I wrote above?
Or do you mean that the noggings should NOT end up on the primary studs (to avoid thermal bridging according to jkpg_peter).
Fiskarhedenvillan does this: mount 45 * 45 horizontally on the inside of your primary studs. Plastic on these. Then mount 28 * 70 vertically with the spacing that fits the drywall sheets.
Best regards, Tommy.
PS My very personal opinion is that you can attach 45 * 45 directly to the primary studs since you have a horizontal insulation layer on the outside.
Best regards, Tommy.
PS My very personal opinion is that you can attach 45 * 45 directly to the primary studs since you have a horizontal insulation layer on the outside.
Hello again. I just saw that my suggestion doesn't work since you had 900mm wide gypsum and the wall was framed cc600. 900mm gypsum should indeed be framed cc450. Sorry, but I would then mount 45 * 45 horizontal and then 28*70 vertical cc450
Best regards, Tommy
Best regards, Tommy
Yes, see answer #3.
I have 900 plasterboard on partition walls. I can use 1200 on exterior walls, no problem..
I do not want less living space.
The reason for the inner 45 stud rule was precisely for this purpose, i.e., simpler electrical installation, not puncturing the vapor barrier every time you drill, etc.
I am excluding that option.
I will have from the inside:
13 drywall
45 stud + insulation
vapor barrier
145 stud + insulation
45 stud (horizontal) + insulation
wind paper
28 nail stud
22 lock beam panel.
The reason for the inner 45 stud rule was precisely for this purpose, i.e., simpler electrical installation, not puncturing the vapor barrier every time you drill, etc.
I am excluding that option.
I will have from the inside:
13 drywall
45 stud + insulation
vapor barrier
145 stud + insulation
45 stud (horizontal) + insulation
wind paper
28 nail stud
22 lock beam panel.
Here's my opinion: On vertical 145 studs, install the building membrane, then horizontal 45 x45 cc600. Where boxes are to be placed, a vertical 45 x45 stud needs to be added since the boxes are nailed from the side. Once the boxes and vp-pipes are complete, insulate the sections with 45 insulation.
Then, to facilitate plastering and hanging heavy items on the wall, cover the wall with OSB boards or end tongue 17mm.
Now, it doesn't matter what width the plasterboards have since they are screwed into the wood material beneath.
Then, to facilitate plastering and hanging heavy items on the wall, cover the wall with OSB boards or end tongue 17mm.
Now, it doesn't matter what width the plasterboards have since they are screwed into the wood material beneath.