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· Västra götaland
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Read a bit of different opinions and understand that people think differently. Of course, it would be best to use frame screws, but it would be nice to hear from someone who has actually mounted a door and window with just foam without screws.
What are the drawbacks of using foam to mount patio doors and windows? How are your windows/doors mounted today?
The reason I'm asking is that it's almost impossible to drill without the brick cracking.
What are the drawbacks of using foam to mount patio doors and windows? How are your windows/doors mounted today?
The reason I'm asking is that it's almost impossible to drill without the brick cracking.
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There are probably quite a few opinions on this.
I usually go by "frame screws if you can, foam sealant if you must."
The thing with foam sealant is that you can fail in several ways.
You spray in too much foam, causing it to overflow.
You don't secure the door enough beforehand, which can lead to the foam sealant giving you a waist on the frame.
Or that the frame, for some reason, gets jolted just before. Difficult to adjust after foaming.
I usually go by "frame screws if you can, foam sealant if you must."
The thing with foam sealant is that you can fail in several ways.
You spray in too much foam, causing it to overflow.
You don't secure the door enough beforehand, which can lead to the foam sealant giving you a waist on the frame.
Or that the frame, for some reason, gets jolted just before. Difficult to adjust after foaming.
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· Västra götaland
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Ok, thanks for the answer! What is meant by a waist on the frame?nimhed said:
There are probably quite a few opinions on this.
I usually go by "frame screws if you can, foam if you must."
The thing with foam is that you can fail in several ways.
You spray in too much foam so it overflows.
You don't secure the door properly beforehand, which can lead to the foam giving you a waist on the frame.
Or the frame, for some reason, gets a jerk just before. Difficult to adjust after foaming.
You need to be careful that the door is exactly in place before you foam and place spacers between the frame and the door leaf so that the foam does not push the frame against the door leaf.
Foam usually holds, but don't buy the type like Biltema or other cheap stuff, buy quality brands of foam sealant instead.
Foam usually holds, but don't buy the type like Biltema or other cheap stuff, buy quality brands of foam sealant instead.
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· Sverige
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Normally you have a brick facade with a wooden frame behind it. It's in the wooden frame and its studs that you place windows and doors. The brick is usually just a facade, not load-bearing at all.Friteradräka said:
I have never used foam to install windows or doors. You want the adjustability of frame screws, and sealing is done with filler strips.
I would try frame sleeve with an extra "pressure washer" and foam. That way, you don't have to drill into the brick. The frame sleeve presses against the brick, allowing you to temporarily secure the window. Then you can foam between the window and the brick. I've never had the frame bend from foam on 30 installed windows. After that, you can tighten the frame sleeves a bit more.Friteradräka said:
I've read a bit about different opinions and understand that people think differently. Of course, it would be best to use frame screws, but it would be nice to hear from someone who has actually mounted a door and window with just foam without screwing.
What are the disadvantages of using foam to mount patio doors and windows? How are your windows/doors mounted today?
The reason I'm asking is that it's almost impossible to drill without the brick cracking.
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· Västra götaland
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Thanks, that was a great tip!G gorcot said:I would try a frame sleeve with an extra "pressure washer" and foam. Then you won't have to drill into the brick. The frame sleeve presses against the brick, allowing you to temporarily secure the window. After that, you foam between the window and brick. I've never had the frame buckle from foam on 30 installed windows. Then you can tighten the frame sleeves a bit more.
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· Västra götaland
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Well, the thing is the frame is made of brick tooH Harald Blåtumme said:Normally, you have a brick facade, and a wooden frame behind it. It's in the wooden frame and its studs that you install windows and doors; the brick is normally just a facade, not load-bearing at all.
I have never used foam sealant to install windows or doors. You want the adjustability of frame screws, and sealing is done with insulation strips.
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Well, that's exactly what we did. The carpenter wanted to use spray foam to secure the door because the brickwork cracked. The door is there now, but there was a crack in the frame when he provided support. And it hurts a bit in the soul.Rejäl said: