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Attaching a rod or hook to a glued laminated timber beam
We have a glulam beam that has replaced a wall in the kitchen, in a spot where it would be convenient to hang smaller animals when butchering at home. Ideally, it should be able to hang one or two lambs, but also a few more smaller animals, depending on what's been hunted or slaughtered.
The first idea was to have some sort of rod, hanging on the side of the beam, similar to a curtain rod. The difference is that the rod and its fastening need to support, say, 2 x 25 kg lambs.
To make it fit in the kitchen, my wife would prefer if the rod runs along the entire length of the beam, which is about 3.5 meters, which would probably mean several supports along the rod.
I have searched but haven't found any suitable ready-made or semi-made products for this. Does anyone have any tips on something that might work?
The first idea was to have some sort of rod, hanging on the side of the beam, similar to a curtain rod. The difference is that the rod and its fastening need to support, say, 2 x 25 kg lambs.
To make it fit in the kitchen, my wife would prefer if the rod runs along the entire length of the beam, which is about 3.5 meters, which would probably mean several supports along the rod.
I have searched but haven't found any suitable ready-made or semi-made products for this. Does anyone have any tips on something that might work?
Can you really find nothing in the Ballingslöv catalog?! That still sounds like something that should be in every man's home. I mean, if you happen to shoot a bunch of small game on the way home after picking up the kids from daycare, you want to be able to hang up the animals easily while you prepare snacks for the kids.
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· Halland
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I, like MathiasS, find myself wondering, but I ask a bit more directly:
Is this really a serious question?
Are you going to hang slaughtered lambs for bleeding, then skin and butcher them in the kitchen?
What does the family say when blood splatters during breakfast?
Anyway, at granngården you'll find some slaughter accessories, including slaughter hooks in various designs.
You can easily and smoothly hang them on the pipes to the milking system.
Provided, of course, that you don't still have glass pipes for the milk?
Is this really a serious question?
Are you going to hang slaughtered lambs for bleeding, then skin and butcher them in the kitchen?
What does the family say when blood splatters during breakfast?
Anyway, at granngården you'll find some slaughter accessories, including slaughter hooks in various designs.
You can easily and smoothly hang them on the pipes to the milking system.
Provided, of course, that you don't still have glass pipes for the milk?
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· Halland
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Of course, you are naturally right.
Biltema has started with "hästgrejer," so it probably won't be long before IKEA comes with slaughter and butchery accessories.
The Smärtfri slaughter knife, for example.
Biltema has started with "hästgrejer," so it probably won't be long before IKEA comes with slaughter and butchery accessories.
The Smärtfri slaughter knife, for example.
Coming from a hunting family, meat and dead animals are not something unpleasant, so I completely understand TS's question. I assume bleeding and disembowelment will take place elsewhere, but a kitchen is an excellent place for butchering an animal, isn't it? Good work surfaces and hygiene compared to the garages or sheds where many insist on breaking down the meat.
You might consider IKEA's "Grundtal". They are a bit short, but you could attach several in a row to cover the entire beam. Otherwise, it might be an idea to contact a mechanical workshop that can weld some "luxurious" curtain rod brackets for you that you can combine with a suitable rod.
You might consider IKEA's "Grundtal". They are a bit short, but you could attach several in a row to cover the entire beam. Otherwise, it might be an idea to contact a mechanical workshop that can weld some "luxurious" curtain rod brackets for you that you can combine with a suitable rod.
Sorry if it was unclear, but no, I don't mean that I am going to euthanize, bleed out, dress, skin, or slaughter animals in the kitchen. The mess has to be handled elsewhere.
However, when you have a pre-hung carcass that needs to be butchered, bagged, and frozen, it's most convenient to do it in the kitchen, and it doesn’t splatter any blood on the kitchen table. But it usually gets unnecessarily messy around the kitchen counter, as there isn't much room for a larger lamb. Hence, my desire to be able to hang them for rough butchering. When the kids see that we process meat, they are happy because they know it means good food, and they are fully aware of the entire process from shot to table. My wife doesn't say much, as she is as busy as I am taking care of the animal, and she is used to (unlike me, who grew up in a terraced house) being involved in slaughter from a young age.
Anyway, the question was really not about hunting, slaughtering, or butchering, but about hanging a pole on a vertical surface of heavy wood. Can we start over and pretend it's a jumper for an unusually chubby one-year-old that I want to be able to hang up? A hammock, which should be movable sideways to avoid being in the shade?
Boat accessories were a good idea; I could imagine that a sturdy railing bracket might work if they can hold the weight.
Otherwise, a pipe bracket was probably the closest I had found, with the only problem being that I hadn't found one for fewer than 3 pipes.
Any other tips? My thought was that pipes/poles aren't a new concept when it comes to hanging things—clothes, curtains, tools, etc.—and that there should be something ready-made or easy to adapt, even if it needs to handle a little more weight.
However, when you have a pre-hung carcass that needs to be butchered, bagged, and frozen, it's most convenient to do it in the kitchen, and it doesn’t splatter any blood on the kitchen table. But it usually gets unnecessarily messy around the kitchen counter, as there isn't much room for a larger lamb. Hence, my desire to be able to hang them for rough butchering. When the kids see that we process meat, they are happy because they know it means good food, and they are fully aware of the entire process from shot to table. My wife doesn't say much, as she is as busy as I am taking care of the animal, and she is used to (unlike me, who grew up in a terraced house) being involved in slaughter from a young age.
Anyway, the question was really not about hunting, slaughtering, or butchering, but about hanging a pole on a vertical surface of heavy wood. Can we start over and pretend it's a jumper for an unusually chubby one-year-old that I want to be able to hang up? A hammock, which should be movable sideways to avoid being in the shade?
Boat accessories were a good idea; I could imagine that a sturdy railing bracket might work if they can hold the weight.
Otherwise, a pipe bracket was probably the closest I had found, with the only problem being that I hadn't found one for fewer than 3 pipes.
Any other tips? My thought was that pipes/poles aren't a new concept when it comes to hanging things—clothes, curtains, tools, etc.—and that there should be something ready-made or easy to adapt, even if it needs to handle a little more weight.
Before I engaged my brain and realized you were being ironic, I agreed ;-)MathiasS said:
Of course, you should have the ability to hang things up. Hooks and other hanging things are something missing for all sorts of things, not just meat handling. Car trunks, kitchens, wardrobes, garages, closets, attics... where don't you need to hang things?
Ikea grundtal would have been perfect, but that's where my wife draws the line, way too modern to fit into a house from 1927. Too bad they don't have a trendy "rustic" version.
By the way, does anyone know about tensile strength? If you bought a pipe like this, for example:
http://www.seasea.se/Article.aspx?ArticleNo=1000
Say you put up that pipe with a holder at each end, and two along the pipe, so there's a meter between each holder.
Approximately how much would such a holder withstand?
http://www.seasea.se/Article.aspx?A...unner&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pricerunner
How much could you hang in the middle of the pipe before it bends?
Not looking for exact figures, but is this something that could possibly work and is therefore worth looking into further, or am I completely off track?
The stainless steel pipe you linked to is at least 5 times stronger than Ikea's base number.
I believe it will hold up well if you choose good screws for the brackets.
Do you want to be able to move the hook along the rod, or is the rest just decoration?
I believe it will hold up well if you choose good screws for the brackets.
Do you want to be able to move the hook along the rod, or is the rest just decoration?
If you install a long pipe, try to include many brackets along its length. Otherwise, the hooks, if you're using them, will keep sliding together all the time. If you have brackets placed at appropriate intervals, you can hang so that the hind legs achieve the angle you desire. I only have smaller animals where a noose around the hind leg is sufficient, but I assume lambs are easier to handle with hooks.
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linusc,
I want to apologize for the sarcasm and meanness I spewed yesterday!
I have no excuse
I just found the idea of hanging carcasses in the kitchen unreasonable.
That said, sorry!
I want to apologize for the sarcasm and meanness I spewed yesterday!
I have no excuse
I just found the idea of hanging carcasses in the kitchen unreasonable.
That said, sorry!
Then, stainless steel pipe with suitable mounts seems like a good idea. The idea of a long pipe is partly to be able to hang things in daily life that even typical Swedes still have in their kitchens, like frying pans, garlic braids, and some herb bouquets for drying. It also offers the flexibility to hang carcasses based on number and size and, finally, because it will likely look natural if it runs along the entire beam. Additionally, it might be convenient to have a lot of space to hang things when working on sausage stuffing or other projects where you have a lot of stuff that needs to be hung. If we still had rabbits, it would have been handy to be able to hang quite a few next to each other, but it's too much hassle for small amounts of meat, so we've stopped that.
I usually use hooks, but hanging with a hook in each leg works fine. During the lamb slaughter a few weeks ago, one Achilles tendon broke, and I discovered that a snare around the hind leg works quite well too. When gutting, a slaughter gallows is handy as it holds the legs in a convenient angle, but here it's mostly about being able to hang the carcass for rough butchering.
KOW, no worries, it wasn't many years ago that I bought a whole chicken from the grocery store for the first time, so I'm aware that we all have different behavioral patterns in the kitchen
I usually use hooks, but hanging with a hook in each leg works fine. During the lamb slaughter a few weeks ago, one Achilles tendon broke, and I discovered that a snare around the hind leg works quite well too. When gutting, a slaughter gallows is handy as it holds the legs in a convenient angle, but here it's mostly about being able to hang the carcass for rough butchering.
KOW, no worries, it wasn't many years ago that I bought a whole chicken from the grocery store for the first time, so I'm aware that we all have different behavioral patterns in the kitchen
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Thank you!linusc said:
We slaughter, pluck, and gut our leftover young roosters out on the woodshed hill.
Last year, we took 11 of them to a poultry slaughterhouse, but now, with the help of a course,
my wife handles the plucking and gutting, and I swing the axe.
I learned that a lifetime ago at a relative's place, who was a farmer.
He had a livestock-free farm, but some geese and ducks as "decoration."
It was there I ate rabbit for the first and only time (hope my daughter doesn't read this :x ).
