Hello,
I've bought Roman rings/swing/trapeze for my 2.5-year-old daughter. We live in an apartment built in the 1930s and I'm not really confident about securely fastening the mounts to the ceiling... Since the plan is to place them near her door, I'm considering whether it might be better to attach the mounts to the concrete wall above the wall instead.
What do you think about this? And how should I think when choosing the dimensions of the screws? The equipment can handle up to 70 kilos, but it's intended for my daughter who is about 15 kilos, though I'd like to have a good margin.
I've bought Roman rings/swing/trapeze for my 2.5-year-old daughter. We live in an apartment built in the 1930s and I'm not really confident about securely fastening the mounts to the ceiling... Since the plan is to place them near her door, I'm considering whether it might be better to attach the mounts to the concrete wall above the wall instead.
What do you think about this? And how should I think when choosing the dimensions of the screws? The equipment can handle up to 70 kilos, but it's intended for my daughter who is about 15 kilos, though I'd like to have a good margin.
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Worth noting is that the vibrations will make the holes larger over time as she swings.
I would use larger brackets with two larger holes, drill and fill with anchor mass, and drive in concrete screws with washers.
Alternatively, you can take a plywood board that you attach with four sturdy screws as described above and also glue to the wall. Then you screw the brackets you have into the plywood board and the wall.
Also, keep in mind that above the door frame, it's likely just mortar, about 20mm, so the screw won't get a grip in concrete there.
I would use larger brackets with two larger holes, drill and fill with anchor mass, and drive in concrete screws with washers.
Alternatively, you can take a plywood board that you attach with four sturdy screws as described above and also glue to the wall. Then you screw the brackets you have into the plywood board and the wall.
Also, keep in mind that above the door frame, it's likely just mortar, about 20mm, so the screw won't get a grip in concrete there.
First of all: OVERdimension! The daughter may only weigh 15 kilos today, but they grow faster than you think, I can tell you. (Those two tall gentlemen living at home with us, who were just recently little, wriggling boys you had to carry around, will soon grow through the roof.) Additionally, sooner or later someone else will want to try the rings, and then it can get lively. Consider that the attachments should withstand more than the rings themselves.
Secondly: Drill holes until you tickle the neighbor's back with the drill, fill with anchor mass, and then insert the thickest bolts you can think of. Use, for example, a threaded rod, so you can unscrew the rings if necessary, by simply threading the rods through the rings' attachment holes and tightening with a nut and washer.
Thirdly: Drilling into concrete is a misery; make sure you have a new and sharp drill bit. Probably it will also turn out that there is rebar right where you planned to drill, which you won’t notice until you've been standing there for a while wondering why the drill bit is red hot without going deeper. (At that point, switch to a metal drill bit until you get through, and then back to a new concrete drill bit, since you’ve just ruined the tip of the previous one. Don't ask me how I know THAT
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Secondly: Drill holes until you tickle the neighbor's back with the drill, fill with anchor mass, and then insert the thickest bolts you can think of. Use, for example, a threaded rod, so you can unscrew the rings if necessary, by simply threading the rods through the rings' attachment holes and tightening with a nut and washer.
Thirdly: Drilling into concrete is a misery; make sure you have a new and sharp drill bit. Probably it will also turn out that there is rebar right where you planned to drill, which you won’t notice until you've been standing there for a while wondering why the drill bit is red hot without going deeper. (At that point, switch to a metal drill bit until you get through, and then back to a new concrete drill bit, since you’ve just ruined the tip of the previous one. Don't ask me how I know THAT
)It can also be very comfortable with suitable drill bits like Hilti TE-CX, which are designed specifically for reinforced concrete. It doesn't matter if you encounter rebar, just keep going as usual.ricebridge said:
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Thirdly: Drilling into concrete is a pain; make sure to have a new and sharp drill bit. Chances are it will also reveal there is rebar right where you intended to drill, which you won't notice until you've been standing there wondering why the bit gets scorching hot without going any deeper. (At that point, switch to a steel drill bit until you're through, and then go back to a new concrete drill bit, as you've just ruined the tip on the previous one. Don't ask me how I know THAT
They were real super brackets. However, it looks like they are meant to be mounted on the ceiling (hinged?). 8mm plug of the longer type, any quality brand, and 6mm screw should do just fine.
Is it possible to drill straight through and use a threaded rod with a nut+washer on both sides? That's what I did with a TV mount since I didn't trust the wall material. It's rock solid, maybe not that pretty, but it's hidden behind a door...A adiel said:
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An alternative could be a chin-up bar. These have small mounts that you screw into the frame so they hold well. I have one of these and it can handle my 100 kg anyway. For permanent use, you could probably use a metal screw so it doesn't open up.A adiel said:
https://www.jula.se/catalog/fritid/...hantlar-och-skivstanger/pull-up-stang-003514/
My daughter uses my TRX bands as a swing and she is 8 years old. I screwed a board above the door, into which I then placed a hook. It even holds me at 90kg. It might be a good idea to set a spacer (a little distance from the wall) so the bands don't constantly rub against the edge if she decides to swing like my daughter.
Haha good one, thanks for the great input!!First of all: OVERdimension! The daughter may only weigh 15 kilos today, but they grow faster than you think, I can tell you. (Those two lanky gentlemen who live here with us, and who were just recently small wriggling boys you could carry around, will soon grow through the roof.) Moreover, sooner or later there will always be someone else who wants to test the rings, and then it can get lively. Think of it as the attachments needing to withstand more than the rings themselves.
Secondly: Drill holes until you tickle the neighbor in the back with the drill, fill with anchor compound, and then insert the thickest bolts imaginable. Use, for example, threaded rods, so that you can also remove the rings if necessary by simply threading the rods through the rings' attachment holes and tightening with a nut and washer.
Thirdly: Drilling into concrete is a hassle; make sure to have a new and sharp drill bit. You will probably also find that there is reinforcing steel exactly where you intended to drill, which you won't notice until you've been wondering why the drill bit is getting hot without going deeper. (At that point, switch to a steel drill bit until you're through, and then back to a new concrete drill bit, because you've just ruined the tip of the previous one. Don't ask me how I know THAT
Yes, the fixture is definitely intended to be mounted on the ceiling… I'm wondering if the load will be disproportionately large on the top screw if I attach it to the wall… I feel a bit unsure about how it looks in the ceiling here, assuming it might contain both water and electricity?Karrock said:
Don't overthink it now. Your daughter will grow up and move out before those rings are in place otherwise.A adiel said: