Drain or replace panels first?

[Hammare&Spik]

As the title suggests, we have a lot to do on the house come spring. We need to both drain around the house and replace and paint the paneling.
I haven't decided which of the projects should be tackled first? Does it matter? I've been thinking that it might be better to start with the draining since the new paneling might get dirty or damaged if we do the draining afterward.
But as I said, I'm not sure. Anyone with some experience who can offer some good advice?
Regards

 

[Villa1949]

The advantage of doing the drainage first is that it takes a long time for the garden to look nice again.

By the way, drainage is incredibly boring (but good), it makes the garden messy, ugly, and ruined.

Changing panels and painting is rewarding as it gives a clear visual result, which is fun.

If it’s just an unfinished basement, maybe drainage isn't so urgent, then perhaps the paneling is more of a priority if it's so bad that it leaks or something.

 

[Villa1949]

It's worth noting that painting requires good weather, like in May, June, and July, while drainage can be done at other times as well.

 

[Hammare&Spik]

It's worth considering that painting requires good weather, like May, June, and July, while dränering can be done otherwise as well.

I've heard that dränering also needs good weather (late spring, summer) as it would be bad if it rains while you're digging?

 

[Rickard.]

I've heard that drainage also needs good weather (late spring, summer) because it would be bad if it rained while digging?

A lot of rain is probably both bad and unpleasant. Up here in the north, they do a lot of drainage in the winter.

 

[Kaboff]

Sometimes drainage is done, then the digger returns once it has dried up to restore the surfaces if it is very wet.

 

[sinclairhacker]

I've heard that the drainage also needs good weather (late spring, summer) as it would be problematic if it rained while digging?

A company did drainage for us in the middle of winter, it was very rainy but no problems. The advantage was that by spring and summer, we could organize the garden and everything outdoors.

 

[P-plats]

If the panel is to be replaced but you don't risk consequential damage, I would drain first. I've drained and done other digging work, and it's nice to do when the ground is dry and fine. Then, as you write, there is a risk of damaging the panel when you drain.

 

[aekeberg]

As the title suggests, we have a lot to do on the house come spring. We need to drain around the house and replace and paint the paneling.
I haven't decided which of the projects to undertake first? Does it matter? I've got it in my head that it might be better to start with the drainage, since the new paneling might get dirty or damaged if we do the drainage afterward?
But I don't know, as I said. Anyone with a bit of experience who can offer some good advice?
Regards

We drained in the autumn (October/November) hoping there would be a bit of frost in the ground but alas, we were out of luck.

First two weeks were dry and quite ok but then came the rain. It felt like trenches from the first world war had been dug in our garden... In the spring (May?) the contractor came back and leveled and prepared for rolling out the grass.

Overall it worked pretty well although some parts settled a bit more since then.

So my tip is to drain in late autumn/winter, live with the mud and general misery for as short a time as possible!

 

[Derbyboy]

I first did the drainage, and this spring it will be the facade.

My facade became both dirty and a bit damaged during the drainage.

 

[PatrikJo]

Someone told me that draining in the winter is best for everyone except those who have to do the job. The ground closest to the house won't have much frost, and you won't cause as much damage. I've thought about placing insulation boards around the foundation (you'll need the boards anyway later) and then making sure to keep the lawn free of snow. That way, you should have a lot of frost to drive the excavator on, but it will still be easy to dig around the foundation.

 

[Hammare&Spik]

Someone told me that draining in winter is the best for everyone except those doing the work. The ground closest to the house won't have much frost, and you won't damage as much. I've toyed with the idea of placing insulation boards around the foundation (you'll need the boards anyway later) and then making sure to keep the lawn snow-free. That should give you solid frost to run the digger on, but still be easy to dig around the foundation.

Interesting input.
A few questions..
We live south of Gothenburg, so it's not particularly cold. Is frost a problem for a digger? I think it doesn't make any difference except it might take a bit longer?
My concern (also heard from others) is that if it were to rain a lot during the actual draining. That it would be bad for the house. Therefore, it's good if it's dry and the house foundation can "breathe" and dry.. instead of being drenched in rain.. Isn't it better for the insulation to be placed against the foundation when it's dry and not wet and soggy..
Personally, I want the drainage done as soon as possible. Just to avoid fixing the garden in the middle of summer when I'd rather relax with the grill and beer!
I didn't quite understand the purpose of your idea with insulation boards around the foundation? How would they help?
Thanks

 

[sinclairhacker]

Interesting input. Some questions.. We currently live south of Gothenburg, so it's not particularly cold. Is frost a problem for an excavator? I assume it just takes a little longer but makes no difference? My concern (which I've heard from others too) is that if it rains a lot during the drainage work, it could be bad for the house. That's why it's good if it's dry and the foundation can "breathe" and dry instead of being soaked in rain. Isn't it better for the Isodrän to be placed against the foundation when it's dry rather than wet and nasty? Personally, I want the drainage to be done as soon as possible to avoid repairing the garden in the middle of summer when I'd rather relax with the grill and a beer! I didn't quite understand your idea of the insulation boards around the foundation. How would they help? Thanks

Hi, I can probably also share our experiences.

We hired an experienced excavation company, and the frost wasn't a problem. A meter out, they felt it didn't matter, and they had no issues during winter. I've noticed that the house heats up more than you'd think when I've done small hand digging close by. Our house is level with Örebro, so you should have warmer ground but maybe slightly more rain.

I don't dare answer the second question, other than to say it partially rained but it still worked out fine with removing asphalt, pipes, fabric, and intermediate layers, as well as having fabric and sheet metal around the Pordrän. Mostly, it was a bit tough for those doing the work, and it got muddy, but they managed to take breaks in the garage.

And for us, it was the right time, most of it was settled by summer, not much sinking had occurred and it had repacked well.

 

[PatrikJo]

Interesting input.
Some questions..
We live south of Gothenburg, so it's not particularly cold. Is frost a problem for an excavator? I assume it doesn't make a difference except that it takes a bit longer?
My concern (also heard from others.. is that if it rains a lot when doing the actual drainage, it would be bad for the house. That's why it's good if it's dry and the foundation can "breathe" and dry.. instead of being drenched in rain.. Isn't it better for the isodrän if it's placed against the foundation when it's dry and not wet and messy..
I personally want the drainage to be completed as soon as possible. Just to avoid fixing the garden in the middle of summer when I instead want to relax with the grill and beer!
I didn't quite understand your point about insulation boards around the foundation? What would they help with?
Thanks

Placing insulation boards around the foundation is precisely to minimize the amount of frost there. I think you get a soft zone around the foundation, and a well-frozen zone on the lawn that can support driving an excavator on.
The house doesn't care if it gets wet, it stands outside year-round It's actually the lawn that takes quite a beating if it's too wet outside.

 

[Hammare&Spik]

Placing insulation boards around the foundation is precisely to minimize the frost there. I think you'll have a soft zone around the foundation and a well-frozen zone on the lawn that can support driving an excavator on.
The house doesn't care about getting wet; it's outside all year round It's really the lawn that takes a hit if it's too wet outside.

I've never done drainage (that is, hired someone to drain my house before! That's why I have to ask.
What do you mean when you say the house doesn't care if it gets wet? If you've dug 2.5 meters straight down into the ground around the house, as we're going to do. Say there are 2 days of rain during that time. That must be bad for the house with a lot of water collecting there. Isn't that how moisture damage in basements works? That a lot of water has been against the foundation and eventually seeped in.
Or am I thinking wrong?