Imagine the following.

A slab-on-grade prepared for casting, but not yet cast. Built with 'regular' 300mm edge elements in cellular plastic according to all the rules for a 10cm slab.

The casting is desired to be done "indoors" and therefore you would want to get the walls and roof up before casting the slab itself.

The idea is also to have a raised section with leca blocks so that the sill is not directly on the slab.

Is this feasible and how would you go about building the walls before casting the slab?
 
Would argue that it is not possible to implement as there is nothing that can take up loads.
 
What type of building are we talking about? Can you cast the edge beam first? Of course, with a recess into the slab.
 
the edge elements cannot bear the load without being filled with hardened concrete. The best I can think of is a tent over the whole thing
 
Mikael_L
Since it's possible to lift houses and set them back using jacks, for example, to move the house or address issues with the foundation, it is obviously possible to fix this as well.

But it indeed becomes a lot of extra work, so the question is why you're eager to build walls & roof before casting the slab.

But set the edge elements and the entire form for the slab.
Then place some HEA beams here and there and prop them up a few cm above the L-edge elements.
And then build the house on the beams, gently caulking with something in the gap between the edge elements and steel beam.
And then cast and finish by using jacks to lower the house.

NOW I want to know why you're considering ... !!! :D
 
Why is my first thought.....
 
It's fine to proceed as you planned if, instead of the edge beam, you use leca/isoleca blocks for 2 or 3 courses; then, you can build the structure on that base and pour the slab inside the building, incorporating the elevation in the same process. You will have marginal or no reduction in insulation.

The elevation of leca (spolkant?) might be an issue in terms of insulation.

An advantage is that the construction becomes stronger than a typical edge beam since the masonry base is reinforced.

Another option is to use an albabalk, which also allows the building to be constructed first.
 
Hello

Thanks for the tips, no obvious simple solutions, suspected that :)

Why do something so crazy?

Well, it was about a concrete slab that is to be cast and covered with hard concrete, it's sensitive to lay and is best done "indoors". However, there are no plans to carry out this maneuver, it was mostly me pondering the possibilities.

As mentioned, a tent is the obvious solution.
 
I would say that depending on what you mean by the slab being "coated" with hard concrete, I would first cast a slab, then erect the frame and get the house sealed, then do an indoor pouring on the slab with hard concrete.

/Torpalainen
 
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Hard concrete is applied before the concrete has set.
 
No problem pouring a slab of hard concrete in the open air. Just check the weather reports and go on a nice day.
 
Matti_75 said:
No problem casting a slab with hard concrete under the open sky. Just check the weather reports and choose a nice day.
Just need to be able to book the concrete on short notice. :o

Any tips on where to find more detailed information on how to cast a concrete slab, with envelope fall, what tools and machines are needed, etc.?
 
Post a sketch and I will come up with suggestions. When ordering, just mention that you need to be able to adjust the casting at short notice; it usually works. Machines needed for casting are a fallaser vibrostav or vibrobalk, shovels sloda, and helicopter. Preferably a large and a small one along with a rivbräde and a handstål. An asphalt rake can be good to have.
 
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To lay out the hårdbetong, you may need a strollervagn for hårdbetong.
 
Sketch comes here. There are four drains, two of which should have envelope slope so that it flows down from the cars into the drains. The two at the doors only need local slope. Note the size of the slab.

Floor plan showing four drains; two with slopes for runoff from cars, two with local slopes near doors. Includes dimensions and highlighted slab size.
 
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