An old stable from the 1920s with old troughs and "boxes" made of concrete/brick for animals, I will tear out everything inside and pour a new floor.
The space will be used as a cold storage and the appearance does not need to be top-notch. Costs must be kept to an absolute minimum.
The old posts that support certain beams in the ceiling are attached on top of the old "concrete animal boxes."
When I install new posts to support the ceiling, I plan to use pressure-treated 95x95mm posts that I cast 10 cm into the concrete and then fasten with something like angle brackets under the ceiling beam. Is this a good, okay, less good, or even disastrous solution?
Is there a risk that a pressure-treated post indoors will rot if it is cast into concrete?
Grateful for criticism and tips!
The space will be used as a cold storage and the appearance does not need to be top-notch. Costs must be kept to an absolute minimum.
The old posts that support certain beams in the ceiling are attached on top of the old "concrete animal boxes."
When I install new posts to support the ceiling, I plan to use pressure-treated 95x95mm posts that I cast 10 cm into the concrete and then fasten with something like angle brackets under the ceiling beam. Is this a good, okay, less good, or even disastrous solution?
Is there a risk that a pressure-treated post indoors will rot if it is cast into concrete?
Grateful for criticism and tips!
Well, I guess I will have to provisionally support the beams in the ceiling while I pour the concrete somehow?
I'm also not exactly sure where the finished level of the floor will end up, as the current basins, etc., make the floor horribly uneven.
I'm also not exactly sure where the finished level of the floor will end up, as the current basins, etc., make the floor horribly uneven.
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1. It may be that it can manage without supports during casting. If it needs to be supported, place a support next to where it will stand later. Lay a concrete slab to distribute the pressure. Then encase the lower part of the post up to the finished floor level with 20 mm Styrofoam. After casting, place the permanent support, remove the temporary support and Styrofoam, and pour concrete to fill the hole.
2. Place the supports on top of the concrete; the friction ensures they remain without bolts, screws, and angle brackets. It is possible to move the supports later if the use of the space changes.
3. Indoors, on top of the concrete, pressure-treated wood is not necessary, possibly with sill paper under the post.
4. It is recommended to lay insulation, even if only 50 mm under the concrete, as it will reduce condensation in the summer (and reduce the risk of frost heave).
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2. Place the supports on top of the concrete; the friction ensures they remain without bolts, screws, and angle brackets. It is possible to move the supports later if the use of the space changes.
3. Indoors, on top of the concrete, pressure-treated wood is not necessary, possibly with sill paper under the post.
4. It is recommended to lay insulation, even if only 50 mm under the concrete, as it will reduce condensation in the summer (and reduce the risk of frost heave).
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Ok, so the concrete slab and the Styrofoam around the temporary support are just so I can remove the temporary support easily, right?
Isn't a single screw really necessary if, for example, I accidentally run into the permanent support with the riding mower or do something else stupid?
Isn't a single screw really necessary if, for example, I accidentally run into the permanent support with the riding mower or do something else stupid?
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The concrete slab remains under the concrete, the styrofoam to release the provisional one.
Impact yes, the friction depends on how much weight is on the support. And how fast you drive.
If you're worried, drill in 2 angles to secure the post but kick it first.
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Impact yes, the friction depends on how much weight is on the support. And how fast you drive.
If you're worried, drill in 2 angles to secure the post but kick it first.
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OK 
Do you mean to drill the brackets into the ceiling beam or into the concrete?
Do you mean to drill the brackets into the ceiling beam or into the concrete?
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If necessary, both.
I have never needed it, but I guess there are about 2-3 tons on my supports. Yes, we have had trouble lifting with a 3-ton jack.
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I have never needed it, but I guess there are about 2-3 tons on my supports. Yes, we have had trouble lifting with a 3-ton jack.
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OK, thanks for the help! Will try kicking first...
Came up with one more thing, what do you/you think about using one of these: http://www.byggmax.com/se-sv/prod/pid-08799140 instead of a 95x95 regel?