I am going to install a ground source heat pump in an existing boiler room. For various reasons, I am considering casting a concrete pad 5-10 cm thick to place it on.

The boiler room currently has a slab on grade.

What should I ideally use, and how should I handle the seam between the floor and the wall? What needs to be done to the existing floor? Does it need to be reinforced? The wall is drywalled with wooden studs behind it.

The plan is to cast within the solid yellow area, possibly also the dashed part.
Concrete floor in a boiler room, marked with yellow lines to indicate planned area for a concrete slab installation. Pipes run along the wall above.
 
A few different answers depending on whether you might want to remove it in the future or if it should stay forever...

I wouldn't complicate it... form with a triangular strip at the top to get a chamfer + some mesh reinforcement and then fill with concrete.

/ATw
 
Agree. I would have drilled down a couple of rebar stumps (or equivalent) into the existing floor as well. Maybe grind the surface with an angle grinder and diamond blade too, it's just as well if it becomes uneven.
 
No, I don't want to complicate it. Just a thought, it's the junction between the wall and the floor. Isn't there a risk that moisture seeps in there which isn't good for the studs in the wall? Should something be placed in between? How does it work with concrete directly against drywall? What type of concrete should be used, or is some form of filler better?
 
Why isn't it enough to place the pump directly on the floor, the floor should hold.
Protte
 
prototypen prototypen said:
Why isn't it sufficient to place the pump directly on the floor, the floor should hold.
Protte
Because we will later need to renovate the rest of the floor, including tiling etc., and we can't do that before as the existing boiler is in the way.
 
Does the pump not need access to an overflow with a floor drain and slope?
 
Cruzze Cruzze said:
Doesn't the pump need access to an overflow drain with a floor drain and slope?
Yes, unfortunately, the previous owner who built the boiler room didn't think it was necessary to have a floor drain for the boiler. So one reason for creating the slope under the pump is that we will be able to fix the slope and floor drain once the current boiler is removed.

Wastewater from the water heater and expansion is currently directed to the adjacent bathroom.
 
Place a thin piece of foam plastic as a spacer between the existing and new surface. Against the floor and against the wall. Then it’s easy to remove if desired.
 
I would have just placed some tar paper or construction plastic against the wall. However, it's important to anchor down into the existing slab if you want the new concrete to remain in place.
 
S sixten88 said:
I would just put some roofing felt or building plastic against the wall. However, it's important to dowel into the existing slab if you want the new section to stay in place.
I wouldn't think it's necessary to fasten/dowel a 10 cm concrete slab to the floor... What would make it move?

/ATW
 
A ArneTW said:
I wouldn't think it's necessary to fasten/dowel a 10 cm concrete slab to the floor... What would make it move?

/ATW
Concrete adheres poorly to concrete without primer or dowels. What causes it to detach is shrinkage and rapid water loss from the new concrete into the old slab. Placing four dowels - concrete screws, rebar etc. is a cheap insurance to ensure the slab stays in place.
 
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And if you place it entirely on foam or rubber, you get a somewhat vibration-reduced plate.
 
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