Byggmax polystyrene adhesive dissolves in the rain today! Need to glue with another adhesive now. Which one?

[ohlgren]

Mikael_L. As I understand it, you have metal flashing under the window and wall to handle moisture. Moisture that runs down along the panel and the outside of the bargeboard lands on the metal and drains out. Is this not correct?

Regarding the air gap, you are right. I assume you have to let the panel sit a few cm above the metal.

As far as I know, it's not uncommon in modern houses to let the panel align with the base - an aesthetic issue. I have seen some houses that have it that way anyway.

 

[Mark i Skåne]

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Here is some useful info:
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[Mikael_N]

Mikael_L. As I understand it, there are metal sheets under windows and walls to handle the moisture. Moisture that runs down along the panel as well as the outside of the fascia board ends up on the sheet and drains off. Is this not correct?

Regarding the air gap, you are right. I guess you have to let the panel sit a few cm above the sheet.

As far as I know, it is not uncommon in modern houses to let the panel align with the plinth - an aesthetic question. I have seen some houses that have it that way anyway.

Just make sure you get a sheet that sits between the battens and the frame, which then goes down and covers the concrete slab. It would have been easier to draw a detail on the matter but I don't have the opportunity to do that now, although I believe you understand what I mean.

 

[Mikael_L]

As far as I know, it is not uncommon in modern houses to have the panel align with the plinth - an aesthetic issue. I've seen some houses like that anyway.

Well, I won't try to argue against you. I really don't have much knowledge.

I built in a more old-school way, like the pictures that "Mark i skåne" posted, but not with light frames in the structure though.



And ...

I've seen some houses like that anyway.

And I've seen some houses where they've plastered directly on the cell plastic as the outer wall, so how wrong can it be? ...

(Sorry, couldn't resist ... )

 

[b8q]

Actually, one should consider that the panel can become damp on the backside due to various leaks. That's probably why there is an air gap. So how will it be for you, if water runs down the backside of the panel? It would end up directly on the slab then, right?

 

[ohlgren]

@Mark In Skåne. Well, I started by fastening them with regular 100 mm screws, but it didn't feel very stable. Probably because the pieces are quite small.

 

[ohlgren]

b8q. As I wrote above, I have understood that it is customary to place sheet metal under the wall and window to handle moisture.

 

[ohlgren]

Just make sure you get a sheet that sits between the batten and the frame, which then goes down and covers the concrete slab. It would have been easier to draw a detail on this but I don't have the opportunity to do that now, but I think you understand what I mean.

Yes, that is exactly what the construction company said they will do. The extra insulation is my own idea.

 

[Nyfniken]

The wall will be aligned with the base (kantelementet). That is, the slab will be neither outside nor inside the wall but aligned.

Crazy. Let the roof extend beyond the wall and the wall extend beyond the base.

 

[b8q]

b8q. As I wrote above, I have understood that it is customary to place metal sheets under the wall and window, which take care of the moisture.

Yes, if you also have a sheet at the bottom against the slab, then it should work. I didn't know it was customary though...

 

[Mark i Skåne]

I understand what you mean, the guys we cast with are experienced in this, so sometimes it can feel unstable, but they know what they're doing and make sure the pieces are in place during casting.
Sometimes it's like a real puzzle with pipes and other things sticking up..
Are you going to cast yourself, or do you have professionals for that?

 

[ohlgren]

Land in Skåne. Is a construction company that casts. Then I don't know how experienced they are at it.

Anyway, I washed away the Byggmax foam glue mess and then glued with PL-700. It worked great and it cured and glued the foam - remains to be seen if it holds tomorrow as well. ;-)

 

[ohlgren]

Half off-topic: Regarding the placement of windows versus the facade, it was discussed here: http://www.byggahus.se/forum/fonster-dorrar/188956-montering-av-fonster-mitt-i-sjalva-smygen-2.html

 

[ohlgren]

Yes, if you also have a flashing at the bottom against the plate, it should work. I didn't know that was customary though...

The construction company seems to think so, but I don't really know. However, flashing should be a good insurance to install regardless of where the facade is positioned relative to the plinth.

 

[Mark i Skåne]

Land in Skåne. Is a construction company that pours concrete. Then I don't know how experienced they are at it.

Anyway, I washed off the Byggmax foam glue mess and then glued with PL-700. It went great, and it cured and glued the foam in place – remains to be seen if it holds tomorrow as well. ;-)

Ok, just talk to them beforehand, and they will surely keep track of your spacers.
Actually, you should have checked with them already; craftsmen often have good tips and ideas on such solutions.
Good luck with the construction..