Byggmax insulation?

[österfeldt]

Anyone know anything about Byggmax insulation? Good insulation value???

 

[styrman1]

Subtract a few percent from their insulation value. They do not measure with the same standard as the rest of the market.

 

[Faidros]

Yes, that has come up before. Do you know in what way they measure differently?

http://forum.byggahus.se/isolering/50653-lambda.html#post233085
http://forum.byggahus.se/isolering/50669-isolering-fran-byggmax.html#post233766

 

[andersmc]

subtract a few percent from their insulation value. they do not measure with the same standard as the rest of the market.

A bit dangerous to generalize so broadly. There is actually no "Byggmax insulation," meaning they do not manufacture it themselves but purchase it from different manufacturers. So it could be different brands of insulation from time to time. So your theory is based on Byggmax consistently finding manufacturers who "do not measure with the same standard" as the rest of the world.

 

[styrman1]

Ok.
When I checked, they had insulation from the Czech Republic or some Eastern European country.
THEN a different measurement standard was used.
NOW I actually have no idea, but Byggmax does have a policy to buy the cheapest available and sell it cheaply.

 

[GR_B]

Reduce the insulation capability by a few percent.?????
You don't really think they've checked how their insulation performs, do you? They just estimate.
Much like your argument. Subtract 50% of what you say, and it will be accurate.
Byggmax is a large chain that could easily be sued if their products didn't meet their claims.
But as usual, all companies that sell cheaply are criticized.
Take an ordinary building supply store.
They have different pricing, ranging from 10-60%. Buying a floor molding for 60:- (the expensive store) when you can buy it for 13.50:- at Byggmax or Cheapy.
This means they start with prices that are way too high.
No, let's advocate for discount chains that sell at a fair price.

 

[Mats]

Byggmax sells URSA insulation as far as I know, and URSA is a Spanish company, which means they apply the same EU standards that we do.

 

[styrman1]

Of course! I am wrong! Everything cheap is good. I even believe Byggmax insulation is the best. All the information I have received is incorrect. Even the time the roof plastic supplier warned Byggmax against storing the roof plastic outside because it couldn't withstand it... That information is also wrong. That supplier should have printed their company name on the packages because the cheap plastic from Israel was at least as good as others. Hereby, I conclude my posts about Byggmax's occasional poor quality. Anyone who wants to know more can send me a PM.

 

[Fabian-Bom]

Irony?
As long as the mineral wool is intact and dry, there is probably no difference compared to another construction company's mineral wool. The biggest difference is rather the range, service, and knowledge. I have shopped a lot at byggmax but also at many other companies. I have not been dissatisfied with their products yet.

 

[PatrikJ]

An interesting thing about insulation is that K-rauta has great prices on Isover, especially with the large customer discount I have. Then it becomes significantly cheaper than at Byggmax.

I have anyway bought a lot of insulation from Byggmax, Ursa, and it is probably just as good as all the others....

/ Patrik

 

[sandhall]

styrman1: If it really is as you write, it would be interesting with some background facts. It’s one thing if it's something you've heard from a friend's friend who works in the construction industry and a completely different thing if you can actually substantiate what you're saying. You must have a reason to write that they calculate differently than the rest of the industry. If you can explain why you're writing this, I believe many would be interested in finding out more.

It seems to be quite common with mudslinging in the industry in general, so just throwing out such comments without further explanation might not provide forum participants with much.

 

[HasseHunna]

Hello!
I have used both Ursa (from Byggmax) and the significantly more expensive Roxull, and Isover. The manufacturers of Ursa claim EU standards, Roxull suggests that the insulation value is also the same as, for example, Ursa: In other words, the measurement is applied in the same way. Personally, I believe the difference lies in the fact that the more expensive Roxull is considerably firmer and easier to handle, cut, etc. This entails a number of benefits despite the prices.

 

[andersmc]

If you look up styrman1's previous posts about Byggmax, it seems like he is running some kind of campaign against them. Here's what he writes:

check the construction class. Regular rough concrete from Maxit has K40. I have no idea about Byggmax. Probably neither do they...

Those who screw drywall in thousands of square meters believe that the Lafarge drywall (which Byggmax sells) is worse.

Regarding the hacksaw, I don't agree. Byggmax's cheap ones are not something I recommend. Better to spend 150-200:- on a hacksaw so it keeps its edge for a while.

Byggmax is damn-chipboard.

Byggmax buys its plastic roofing from a company that imports it from Israel. The importer also sells other qualities, but they don't put their name on what they sell to Byggmax. Guess why...
According to reports (pure hearsay), Byggmax was given guidelines as follows:
Don't tell anyone that we are the importers and whatever you do, don't store it outdoors, it can't handle that.
These are second-hand reports, so take it with a grain of salt.
Generally with plastic roofing, you get what you pay for. Expensive plastic withstands the sun's UV rays better.

Without remembering the source, I ought to keep my mouth shut, but it was an article in an industry magazine saying that Byggmax's flooring chipboard didn't withstand the long-term load that is required.

Quality S80 is not sufficient according to some, but Byggmax cheats as usual.
Lower quality but cheap. Price is everything.

As usual, Byggmax has a cheaper alternative that doesn't hold the same quality...
Cheap is more important than good for them.

Byggmax has insulation that is not measured in the same way as other brands regarding U-value.

Byggmax doesn't measure insulation value in the same way as other manufacturers. They are comparable to the major manufacturers' second sorting and should be compared with these.
Faringe saw had a fight with Byggmax about this.

However, if you save a few bucks and buy cheap crap from Byggmax, you don't know exactly...

The comparison with Byggmax is not entirely fair. They sell some crap that costs accordingly.

knock off a few percent on their insulation value. They don't measure with the same standard as the rest of the market.

It's worth noting that in all these instances, the statements are "out of thin air," not supported by any sources or references. Why this hostility can only be speculated on. Something personal, or does he work for a competing company?

In any case, statements of this kind do not make the forum a valuable source of knowledge.

 

[Totte_S]

Hi!
I have used both Ursa (from Byggmax) and the significantly more expensive Roxull, and Isover. ................................ Personally, I think the difference lies in that the more expensive Roxull is significantly firmer and easier to handle, cut, etc., which means a lot of advantages despite the prices.

I agree 100%!
First I bought Ursa, but not only is it a hassle to handle, it tangles and is cumbersome to cut, I also felt that it collapsed, which in itself affects the insulation capability negatively. I continued with Roxull, which is almost as stable as cellplast (slight exaggeration ).

I believe as many before me have; if you're buying a small amount of insulation, buy a larger brand that is nicer to handle. It’s not about much of a difference. Calculate the depreciation....
If you're building something larger, request a quote. It doesn't have to be troublesome. For me, it took 4 minutes to verbally ask for some discounts, and after an hour, I had a finished account that gives me discounts so it's cheaper than Byggmax on most things, but full range and service!

 

[Lompoc]

Differences I've noticed are that Ursa insulation can contain lumps, which of course is not good.
Then it itches much more in the throat than, for example, Isover.

But it's cheap, so we still use it quite often, depending on whether it's a garage or a residential house.