Buy a house with moisture

[Staffans2000]

Wish I had had more knowledge and this

All the more reason to talk to the neighbors!

 

[useless]

Be cautious of houses from the 70s.
Be cautious of houses from the 70s with impregnated beams.
Be cautious of houses from the 70s with impregnated beams and a basement recreation room made from raised timber.

 

[harry73]

But if you already think, without considering future problems, that the house is too expensive, it will be difficult to agree on a reasonable price with the seller.

 

[mexitegel]

One should be cautious with houses from the 70s. One should be cautious with 70s houses with impregnated sills. One should be cautious with 70s houses with impregnated sills and a basement rec room with elevated wooden floors.

Yes, you should also be cautious with:
* houses built in the 90s and 00s with single-layered facades.
* all houses with crawl spaces
* old wooden houses, as they can get true dry rot and may need to be leveled with the ground
* houses with wet rooms
* houses with pier foundations
* houses with cold attics
* houses with slab on grade with overlying insulation, uninsulated concrete slabs or slabs with inadequate drainage
* houses with flat or low-sloped roofs
* houses with wood directly against concrete or plaster, e.g., elevated floors common in the 60s
* houses with building materials without well-documented properties

And also all newly built houses since any potential defects have yet to show themselves

My point is that basically all houses have their shortcomings .

 

[Lveronica]

But if you already think now, without accounting for future problems, that the house is too expensive, it becomes difficult to agree on a reasonable price with the seller

I wasn't born yesterday, I know because of the location and the flaws that have shown up, and it's not just that, but the roof needs to be replaced as well. The house is NOT even worth 1,500,000; I can never believe the owner will get that for this house. And agreeing on a price will be difficult as it is a very old person who can no longer live at home.

 

[harry73]

Of course, you weren't born yesterday. The mere fact that you considered the question and chose to ask it here shows that you are not easily fooled.
What I meant is that the seller is not yet at the point of accepting that the house is worth so much less. Therefore, it's good if you look for another house.

 

[Lveronica]

Of course, you weren't born yesterday. Just the fact that you pondered the question and chose to ask a question here shows that you're not easily fooled.

What I meant is that the seller hasn't yet accepted that the house is worth so much less. That's why it's good if you look for another house.

Will probably wait until something else comes up in the area with less need for renovation

 

[Fadai]

Thanks for all the answers appreciate everyone. I probably have to pass on this house. Feels way too extensive.. I'll have to patiently wait until another house comes out in that area that doesn't have these problems

Wise decision. For that money, you can surely find a better property. You have to have plenty of time and patience when house hunting. Good luck!

 

[hempularen]

Yes, one should also be cautious of:
* houses built in the 90s and 00s with single-step sealed facades.
* all houses with crawl spaces
* old wooden houses, they can get genuine dry rot and may need to be leveled with the ground
* houses with wet rooms
* houses with block foundations
* houses with cold attics
* houses with slab on grade with overlaying insulation, uninsulated concrete slabs, or slabs with inadequate drainage
* houses with flat or low-pitched roofs
* houses with wood directly against concrete or plaster, e.g., raised floors common in the 60s
* houses with building materials without well-documented properties

And additionally all newly built houses as any potential defects have yet to reveal themselves

My point is that almost all houses have their deficiencies .

Yes, that's true, but most of the risks you list are relatively well-known and easy to assess for solutions, like wet rooms.

Moisture problems in 70s houses can often be remedied with sill replacement, and/or Nivell floors or similar. But these are expensive measures that sometimes do not work.

A modern wildcard is the single-step sealed facades. They appear to be a modern variant of the 70s concrete slabs on grade, from a problem perspective. They are treacherous, as a single-step sealed facade can work for many years until water gets in somewhere. The concrete slabs from the 70s often work fine for many years, only to suddenly become problematic with moisture and mold.

 

[Modig]

It will probably be best to wait until something else comes up in the area with less renovation needed

That's probably wise. Just keep in mind that if it's "a similar townhouse," it is most likely built with the same construction risks. It might be something that has been addressed – but you should conduct thorough inspections to check for existing or potential problems (even if the seller claims to have resolved them).

 

[Cancerman_777]

Yes, I want to be positive as it is in the "right place". I wish I had more knowledge and was better at making calculations; I could make a good deal if the situation isn't too bad, but it could almost be the other way around too

You can easily address the knowledge gaps. Read, read, read and read some more, and have a conversation with someone who knows at least a little about houses. Sure, it's nice to make a good deal, but far more important is to make the right deal when it comes to houses. In other words; it doesn't have to be wrong to buy a problem house, but then you need to be aware of it, prepared to address the problems, and have the money to do so.

 

[Jonasdzm]

We found a townhouse built in '77. I've understood that this problem is common from that time. The house doesn't seem to have undergone any major renovations since the beginning.

Anyway..here's what it says in the inspection report.

Concrete slab on ground with raised and insulated floor. The floor construction also contains wood treated with wood preservative.

It states that they found moisture in a bedroom and bathroom.

"A deeper investigation is recommended to determine the cause and extent of the measured moisture values in the construction. It is important to note that this recommendation for a deeper investigation applies to the entire entrance floor. The moisture content of 22% was measured in the internal wall sill. The internal wall sill is treated with wood preservative."

So what do you even think about this? No bids have come in here since it was listed on Hemnet in January. The asking price is around 1,500,000. Which I think sounds way too much considering what will need to be done. It's about 20 km outside Östersund.

What do you all think? WHAT NEEDS to be done and what would those costs be? Can you make a lowball offer?

There's no such thing as a lowball offer. Moreover, you can say that you want to bring in a professional who will provide a quote and that you want to deduct from the purchase price based on what it says in the quote.

You can't be responsible for the sellers' reluctance to maintain their townhouse.

Best regards

 

[agsom44]

Have also been thinking about asking the neighbors, but I don't live nearby, so it feels a bit strange to just go and ask them.

Do you have any idea what will need to be done?

you can always google (ratsit, hitta.se) for phone numbers at respective addresses, then call and ask that you are an interested party but would like to hear etc etc...

 

[Saga Fröjd Lee]

I don't know what those houses usually cost, but it may also be the case that the cost of the measures has already been accounted for in the price, i.e., deducted what it will cost. That's what we did when one of our previous houses was to be sold and the inspection revealed a moisture problem. We obtained quotes on what it would cost to address it and disclosed it openly. And set the house price accordingly. Sure, we received some lowball offers, but since the price had already been set with the renovation needs in mind, we remained calm and sold the house at the asking price.

 

[SueCia]

I don't want to be that critical about this. The fact that it took him 10 years is unfortunate. We wouldn't make a new floor construction ourselves but would bring in help.

bringing in help for a new floor construction absolutely does not mean you'll get rid of the problem that impregnated sills can start to smell; if you then have odor contamination, you can call in 10 different experts, get 10 different solutions, and none might solve the problem

or you might be lucky and avoid such problems; it's a gamble you take if you buy a house with both moisture issues and impregnated wood