So you want to set it further out in a deep PAX frame?
Don't the middle holes work?
I seem to remember installing a similar (non-extendable) one in a deep frame, using the middle holes instead.
Not entirely correct. I wish to disregard that model completely and have a traditional horizontal clothes rod, which must then be mounted in the middle of the walls of the frame. The problem is that the shallow 35cm Pax doesn’t have middle holes and therefore there's no reinforcement with particle board there; according to IKEA, it's honeycomb.
I believe that the frame is not made of cardboard. (Otherwise, you could just try drilling a test hole?)
But if it were, I would put up a wood board and screw it where the chipboard is (where the existing holes are).
Then you would have to shorten the rod, but that's easy.
Keep in mind that it can't be placed in the middle but has to be shifted towards the front so the hangers don’t hit the back.
I don't think the frame is made of paper. (Otherwise, you could just try drilling a hole to find out?)
But if it were, I would put up a wooden board and screw it where there is chipboard (where existing holes are).
Then you have to shorten the rod, but that's easy.
Keep in mind that it can't sit in the middle but must be shifted towards the front so that the hangers don't hit the back.
I'd like to avoid extending the frame with an extra board if possible. A colleague suggested driving screws straight through for extra stability. The entire board is 17-18mm thick if that gives you an idea about the potential thickness of the outer boards. I also prefer to avoid glue since I might want to redo the interior and would need to move the rods.
Another suggestion from the same person was to find wardrobe rod holders with protruding "plugs". The explanation was that these metal plugs can't move. A screw screwed into a 2-3mm board and the rest hollow space will tip upwards from downward weight and thereby, just like drywall, undermine the board's integrity. Picture so you see what I mean: http://www.vedum.se/storage/ma/c6c4...974EE0A17260D421BA0E046E4EEAFBEC039/39305.jpg
The reason there aren't regular bars is probably because the frame is too shallow to have a bar in that direction? A hanger is 40cm+ wide..
In response to your question, I guess it would work to put a bar even where there's only honeycomb, as long as the screw doesn't just fall out on its own.. the weight from the clothes won't "pull out" the screw but just press it down into its hole.
In the worst case, maybe you can drill a small hole, inject some sealant (like PL400?) and then screw it in.
Anledningen till att det inte finns vanliga stänger är väl att stommen är för grund för att ha stång på den ledden? En galge är 40cm+ bred..
Som svar på din fråga gissar jag att det skulle fungera att sätta en stång även där det bara är honeycomb, så länge inte skruven bara trillar ut av sig själv.. vikten från kläder kommer ju inte "dra ur" skruven utan bara pressa ner den i sitt hål.
I värsta fall kanske man kan borra ett litet hål, spruta in någon fog (typ pl400?) och sen skruva i den.
Skall dörr has så fungerar inte vanlig klädstång men vi hade tänkt ha det öppet och den lilla bit som galgarna sticker ut utanför ramen är helt acceptabelt mot att få plats med dubbla mängden kläder i samma stomme.
Får göra ett försök helt enkelt, stommen kostar ju bara 545 kr eller något liknande så är ju inget dyrt misstag. Havererar det får jag försöka något nytt,
Thinking that it should(?) be particle board in a shelf and easier and cheaper to replace this if one fails than the cabinet sides. Through bolt, something that distributes the force over a large area on top of this, tidies up so they don't scratch anything stored there.
Spontaneous thought, is it not possible to build a variant where the clothing rod hangs from the shelf above? If there is supposed to be a shelf there.
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I think it should(?) be a particle board in a shelf and also easier and cheaper to replace this if you fail than the cabinet sides. A through-bolt, something that distributes the force over a large area on the top of this, tidies it up so they don't scratch anything you store there.
That's a solution but the idea was not to have shelves. I hardly think shelves have honeycomb as you said but not a good solution for me.
I have now spoken to a fourth employee at IKEA and this person claims that the information about honeycomb in PAX is incorrect. Two from the store in Kungens Kurva and two from customer service, and three of these said there is honeycomb in PAX. The fourth just got back to me after investigating the matter all day and returned with the answer that this is not the case.
I will get back to you once I have received everything and started drilling!
have recently set up 50x236x58 frames and they are definitely honeycomb, if you walk on them you can feel them flexing and there's a rattle of loose debris when they are raised.
But if you attach a clothing rod across with 2 small screws and a dab of glue in each end, it should meet your needs.
have recently set up 50x236x58 frames and they are definitely honeycomb, if you walk on them you feel them give way and there is a rattle of loose debris when they are raised.
But if you put a clothes rod across with 2 small screws and a dab of glue in each end it should suffice for your needs.
Can't you just as well have a regular deep frame if you're going to hang the hangers that way? It will be just as deep in practice, won't it?
If the hangers stick out, you can't have a door, so you might as well go with open storage, like Elfa, and the problem is solved?
A deeper frame would be 58cm, and a normal hanger is around 44, so the deeper frame is significantly deeper. You obviously need to add 2cm or so at the back so the hanger doesn't hit, and a back panel of a maximum of 1cm, but there would still be an 11cm difference. A deeper frame would also be in the way since the walk-in closet isn't that wide. With a shallower frame, we can basically have the frame right up to the door frame without it sticking out and blocking.
We've considered Elfa, but it's significantly more expensive, not as stylish, and doesn't offer the same options for closed drawers for items like underwear. It looks better with frames acting as partitions.
Then you can mount a clothes rod anywhere against these, allowing the vertical force to be supported by the places that can normally handle it. At the same time, everything can be disassembled without extra screw holes.
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