Hello there.
We have now started the process of building a house. The contract is signed with the house supplier, etc. The building permit will soon be submitted, and there are no problems there.
However, the municipality here (Jönköping) has some special requirements in this area where many new villas will be built. For example, it should be a terraced house, there should be parking space for 2 cars, it should be 6m from the edge of the asphalt, etc.
Our plot is just under 900m2, and you can build on a total of 20% of the plot (residential house). The total approved build area is 175.4m2, and the house with the terrace will be 174.3m2.
Therefore, I will build an "attefall garage" after they have built our house (It feels a bit like a catch-22 that you can't start building until house 1 is up, when they already know I'm going to build it) hmm oh well.
Anyway, I will have the house contractors pour the slab, and I will put the garage together with prefab trusses and a shed roof, etc.
The question is, what size would you pour the slab? I got the measurements from a supplier who said they pour the following size for this:
Length = 6.09m
Width = 3.88m
/Micke
We have now started the process of building a house. The contract is signed with the house supplier, etc. The building permit will soon be submitted, and there are no problems there.
However, the municipality here (Jönköping) has some special requirements in this area where many new villas will be built. For example, it should be a terraced house, there should be parking space for 2 cars, it should be 6m from the edge of the asphalt, etc.
Our plot is just under 900m2, and you can build on a total of 20% of the plot (residential house). The total approved build area is 175.4m2, and the house with the terrace will be 174.3m2.
Therefore, I will build an "attefall garage" after they have built our house (It feels a bit like a catch-22 that you can't start building until house 1 is up, when they already know I'm going to build it) hmm oh well.
Anyway, I will have the house contractors pour the slab, and I will put the garage together with prefab trusses and a shed roof, etc.
The question is, what size would you pour the slab? I got the measurements from a supplier who said they pour the following size for this:
Length = 6.09m
Width = 3.88m
/Micke
SBH said:
I don't have a drawing, that's what I'm checking to see what people usually build with a project like this, or if someone has built it and can refer to their measurements.
I will cast and build this myself with loose lumber and would like tips and ideas for the build.
just have to check what all the materials cost excluding the foundation. plus you get the materials cut and marked.memike said:
The foundation is covered by the house supplier who builds the main buildingSBH said:
So it's the timber and the other materials that need to be purchased. An insulated garage with a door, double windows, and a door costs them 98,000 kr, I got a quote on that. It feels outrageously expensive. I've calculated it and opted for an electric door and aluminum windows, etc., and it comes to about 43,000 kr in materials, not including my time for cutting, etc.
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· Stockholm
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But if you cast the slab before you have received the start notice for the Attefall house, and if the municipality is being picky (which they sometimes are), it is not OK. Then you have started the construction before you have received the start notice.
And garages are often placed close to a boundary with a neighbor. If that is the case for you, how have you been able to get approval from the neighbor for the Attefall house if you don't have a drawing?
And garages are often placed close to a boundary with a neighbor. If that is the case for you, how have you been able to get approval from the neighbor for the Attefall house if you don't have a drawing?
Yes, but according to the municipality, no construction notification is required for the slab as it does not exceed 80cm in height. So what I do in the ground is up to me. Otherwise, everyone who installs a driveway with paving would need to report it and get a start notice was the answer. So I don't see any problem. Otherwise, I can just cover it with soil.hempularen said:But if you now pour the slab before you have received the start notice for the Attefall house, to be precise (and sometimes municipalities are), it's not OK. Then you have started the construction before you received the start notice.
And garages are quite often placed near a boundary with a neighbor, if that's the case for you, how did you get approval from the neighbor for the Attefall house without having a drawing?
That's the little issue. I think it's absurd in the law already. You have to build a building to be allowed to build another building without a building permit???? Catch-22, right? Why complicate it more? Let people build their Attefall houses instead, is my opinion. When it is built doesn't really matter.
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· Stockholm
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I think the municipality is making a mistake if they accept that the slab is poured first, but that would be a minor issue. Yes, you can pour a slab over the entire plot if you want. But since you are pouring a slab intended for building a house, you have started the house construction when you pour the slab. This could result in a construction penalty fee of 22,000.
I don't quite agree that this is unnecessarily complicated. The basic rule is that you need a building permit if you are going to build something. Now the rules have been relaxed for certain smaller constructions like "friggebodar" and "attefallshus." And somewhere, you need to draw the line; regardless of where the line is drawn, someone will think it is unnecessarily complicated. The alternative is a completely unregulated building right, but then you must accept that your neighbor might build a skyscraper right against your property line, or that the neighbor across the street might build a steel mill.
I don't quite agree that this is unnecessarily complicated. The basic rule is that you need a building permit if you are going to build something. Now the rules have been relaxed for certain smaller constructions like "friggebodar" and "attefallshus." And somewhere, you need to draw the line; regardless of where the line is drawn, someone will think it is unnecessarily complicated. The alternative is a completely unregulated building right, but then you must accept that your neighbor might build a skyscraper right against your property line, or that the neighbor across the street might build a steel mill.
One should also keep in mind that building the house requires room to maneuver and storage areas. And that sewage needs to be dug. Especially if it's a sloping plot involved. And that the garage slab can be in the way or get damaged during construction work. Particularly if it's located close to the neighbor's building area. I believe it's quite common for the municipality to determine the number of parking spaces, which is related to the desire to avoid too much street parking. Unfortunately, it's often those with double garages who park on the street. A better alternative would be a carport or built-in garage, which works well with hillside houses. Best regards, PerOF
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· Blekinge
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Is it even possible to build a garage like an Attefall? I don't think so.
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