Warning for Biltema's decking screw

[Jonas Persson]

As mentioned above, you choose what you buy at Biltema. Deck screws for decking, which is a huge job if it goes wrong. No, hardly, then you add a little and get good screws from Essve instead. Tools yes. Engine parts and motor oil no. There is a lot of good stuff at Biltema, but you choose your purchases based on the purpose. And I'm not saying their motor oil or engine parts are bad, just not worth the risk for me

Wouldn't pour it into the new car. But the lawnmower can get their better oils.

 

[Jonas Persson]

Had a conversation with a *salesperson from one of the big manufacturers out there about this *(well-dressed Stockholmer who travels around advertising for professionals). He claimed that they didn't recommend impact drivers for basically all wood screws and definitely not stainless regardless of thickness. Stainless was supposed to be too soft and hardened steel apparently doesn't like being struck, but I've never found any clear warning against it.

If you start looking around, there are actually very few screws where impact drivers are actually recommended; concrete screws are an exception I have in mind. Otherwise, there is usually only a recommended speed, and you can interpret that as you like.

Am I the only one who can't stand the sharp sound of an impact driver? Okay, some like their earmuffs, but with a regular drill, there's no harmful noise, and I prefer working without.

There's an obsession with buying a machine with impact. What do you need 150Nm for to drive screws? For decking screws, I use my Bosch GSR 12V-35 FC. A small, powerful machine with good battery life.

 

[Strontus]

I don't think there's any danger in buying oils from Biltema (if they have the quality rating you want). After all, there are quite few manufacturers of oils, and I don't think they would cheat with quality ratings.

 

[Rickard.]

Am I the only one who can't stand the sharp sound of a hammer drill? Okay, some like their earmuffs, but with a regular machine, there's no dangerous noise, and I'd rather work without them.

Don't like the sound either, but they have their advantages. Impact drivers have a given place in my job, but I wear out at least three screwdrivers on one impact driver, so which one is most often used is clear. At home, I don't have one and don't miss it.

 

[samlarpådetmesta]

Since I got my impact driver, it's almost the only one being used. And yes, I like the ear muffs

 

[Jonas Persson]

Don't like the noise either, but they have their advantages. Impact drivers have a given place in my job, but I wear out at least three screwdrivers on one impact driver, so which is most often used is clear. I don't have one at home and don't miss it.

I seem to notice that many people use unnecessarily large and heavy machines, preferably 18V and loads of power. If you only have one machine, I can understand it, but ergonomics suffer from unnecessary weight.

 

[Alfredo]

but the ergonomics suffer from unnecessary weight.

I completely agree! A lightweight machine is worth its weight in gold, and if it handles "only" 95 percent of what you do, I'd rather solve the last five percent "in another way" than haul extra kilo(s) most of the time.

 

[Anonymiserad 282191]

If you have any issues with over-tightening, you could use ph2 trallskruv instead

 

[Alfredo]

If there are any problems with over-tightening, you can use a PH2 decking screw instead

Then: How the hell could people use slotted screws when there are Phillips screws? Now: How the hell could people use Phillips screws when there are Torx?

 

[optimum]

I have the same perspective as you. However, I'm a tool fetishist, so I end up with a lot of branded items.

But I don't hesitate to buy their combination wrenches or parts for socket wrenches. Machine screws, etc., work too. I've been using their 45J demolition hammer and 10J SDS max rotary hammer for eight years without them breaking.

ESSVE screws are a bit overpriced for my taste, even though they are in my lineup.

Yes, I agree.
I like Bacho tools and have bought quite a few when Jula has run Black Friday with a 50% discount.
But when it comes to combination wrenches, Stahlwille is a clear favorite. It fits perfectly in the hand and has a good profile so it doesn't cut into the hand, and they last incredibly well.

Essve has some products that can't be replaced (that I've found).
For example, their lightweight concrete screws for attaching bearers, like the ones that are 10x185.
Or construction screws that I used for the laminated beams when I built a conservatory.
Things like this...
No, they aren't cheap, but they are incredibly good value.

 

[Anonymiserad 282191]

QUOTE="Alfredo, post: 4200877, member: 54150"]Then: How the hell could people use slot screws when there are Phillips screws?
Now: How the hell could people use Phillips screws when there are Torx?[/QUOTE]

Ph2 still has its advantages the screw stays put on the bit if you need to reach upwards and screw, a Torx screw falls off more often and "wobbles"

 

[gone_fishing]

Then: How the hell could people use slotted screws when there are Phillips screws?
Now: How the hell could people use Phillips screws when there are Torx?

Nickel-plated brass TFS, dome head should be, it's neat!
Tore off my old deck last year, about 20m2 screwed with slotted screws and each screw countersunk (by hand?). Gap between the decking about 15mm. Upper deck not rotten anywhere even though it lay directly on the ground, lower "joists" a bit rotten. Creosote treated in the 60s?

 

[Jonas Persson]

If you have potential problems with over-tightening, you can use ph2 deck screws instead

The screw head by American Phillips was designed for the industry to cam out when the torque becomes too high. A legacy from the 30s before there were screwdrivers with torque. JIS is its modern counterpart that doesn't slip.

 

[Jonas Persson]

QUOTE="Alfredo, post: 4200877, member: 54150"]Then: How the hell could people use slot screws when there are crosshead screws?
Now: How the hell could people use crosshead screws when there are torx?

Ph2 still has its advantages the screw stays still on the bit if you need to reach upwards and screw, a torx screw falls loose more often and "wobbles"[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, JIS is not available, it has the best of Phillips, but not its weaknesses. I've only seen it as a machine screw and only pre-installed.

 

[Jonas Persson]

Then: How the hell could people use slotted screws when there are Phillips screws?
Now: How the hell could people use Phillips screws when there are Torx?

Guess it worked quite well with this one.