In a previous thread, I talked about how I have been trying to get my retaining wall made of leca blocks in order. Last time I was in, I had plastered the wall with Putsbruk-B and was about to buy a "Stänkputsapparat" to create texture on the wall. Here are some tips and advice, as well as how my result turned out.
To "stänkputsa" or "sprita" means to flick the plaster onto the existing surface to create a lively texture. You can choose between 1-2 mm or 4-5 mm ballast. The finer one is most common on walls and the house itself, while the coarser one is mostly used for plinths, etc.
After plastering my retaining wall with Putsbruk-B see the thread "Puts på stödmur av leca" (http://www.byggahus.se/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=byggmatr;action=display;num=1117638748) a "Stänkputsapparat" was purchased. It is a hand-cranked machine that allows you to splash the mixture onto the existing surface.
We chose to buy colored plaster in the hope that it would match the house. Colored stänkputs (also called sprit- or ädelputs) is only slightly more expensive than regular plaster.
After trying a couple of times, I quickly learned how the machine should be used. The result can be seen here:
Factors affecting the plastering included:
-Weather (how warm it was)
-How thick/thin the mixture was made
-Whether the apparatus was aimed upward or downward.
The latter affected the result such that when the apparatus was aimed downward, "thick" clumps came out and when it was aimed upward, "small" clumps appeared.
-If you tapped on the apparatus
To get all the plaster to run down to the bottom, you had to tap on the apparatus regularly. Doing so always resulted in "thick" clumps appearing in the first cranks.
I learned over time to lay the "thick" clumps as a base and the finer splash last to get a better finish.
After a few rounds, I learned what consistency was needed for a good result and how much plaster to prepare to finish splashing the batch before it became too hard.
The cost so far for me for plastering about 45 square meters of wall is approximately:
Base plaster about 2,000 kronor (dry mix) (=just add water)
Stänkputs about 2,000 kronor (dry mix)
Stänkputsapparat about 1,200-1,500 kronor
Additionally, there will be paint costs of about 2,500 kronor since the color of the plaster did not match the house.
I had a quote of 16,000 kr. + VAT last year to plaster the wall, but we had calculated on 20 square meters. It turned out upon control check that it was over 40 square meters of wall. My estimate is that 45 square meters would have led to a quote of around 30,000 kronor. Now I land on about 10,000 for materials + a lot of time.
For those ambitious about plastering something themselves, I recommend talking to Beijers Fasad och Betong in Bromma. They have commendably helped with both small and large questions on this matter.
Final comment: Think twice about splashing larger areas by hand. My advice is that 50 square meters is what one can manage by hand. Larger areas should be "spritated" on with compressed air (this can naturally also be done yourself
...)
Now I have a beautiful retaining wall that looks like this and will later be clad with black Bradstone stones on the posts and top:
To "stänkputsa" or "sprita" means to flick the plaster onto the existing surface to create a lively texture. You can choose between 1-2 mm or 4-5 mm ballast. The finer one is most common on walls and the house itself, while the coarser one is mostly used for plinths, etc.
After plastering my retaining wall with Putsbruk-B see the thread "Puts på stödmur av leca" (http://www.byggahus.se/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=byggmatr;action=display;num=1117638748) a "Stänkputsapparat" was purchased. It is a hand-cranked machine that allows you to splash the mixture onto the existing surface.
We chose to buy colored plaster in the hope that it would match the house. Colored stänkputs (also called sprit- or ädelputs) is only slightly more expensive than regular plaster.
After trying a couple of times, I quickly learned how the machine should be used. The result can be seen here:
Factors affecting the plastering included:
-Weather (how warm it was)
-How thick/thin the mixture was made
-Whether the apparatus was aimed upward or downward.
The latter affected the result such that when the apparatus was aimed downward, "thick" clumps came out and when it was aimed upward, "small" clumps appeared.
-If you tapped on the apparatus
To get all the plaster to run down to the bottom, you had to tap on the apparatus regularly. Doing so always resulted in "thick" clumps appearing in the first cranks.
I learned over time to lay the "thick" clumps as a base and the finer splash last to get a better finish.
After a few rounds, I learned what consistency was needed for a good result and how much plaster to prepare to finish splashing the batch before it became too hard.
The cost so far for me for plastering about 45 square meters of wall is approximately:
Base plaster about 2,000 kronor (dry mix) (=just add water)
Stänkputs about 2,000 kronor (dry mix)
Stänkputsapparat about 1,200-1,500 kronor
Additionally, there will be paint costs of about 2,500 kronor since the color of the plaster did not match the house.
I had a quote of 16,000 kr. + VAT last year to plaster the wall, but we had calculated on 20 square meters. It turned out upon control check that it was over 40 square meters of wall. My estimate is that 45 square meters would have led to a quote of around 30,000 kronor. Now I land on about 10,000 for materials + a lot of time.
For those ambitious about plastering something themselves, I recommend talking to Beijers Fasad och Betong in Bromma. They have commendably helped with both small and large questions on this matter.
Final comment: Think twice about splashing larger areas by hand. My advice is that 50 square meters is what one can manage by hand. Larger areas should be "spritated" on with compressed air (this can naturally also be done yourself
...)Now I have a beautiful retaining wall that looks like this and will later be clad with black Bradstone stones on the posts and top:
Super nice! Now I have to check if I can rent such a plaster machine. Or where do you buy one? Then you don't have to deal with the texture with the brush afterward. Really nice. Where did you buy stänkputs? At the usual place where the other stuff is, or?
You are far too modest Shrek! I know it's not easy at all to get the spray plaster nicely distributed, but you've done a great job! You have to be a little more than just a "happy amateur" to get it as good as you have, because I assume the whole wall is as nice as in the picture.
I know it's not easy at all to get the spray plaster nicely distributed, but you've done a great job! You have to be a little more than just a "happy amateur" to get it as good as you have, because I assume the whole wall is as nice as in the picture. Thank you for all the cheerful encouragement.
I will try to answer your questions, but remember that I am actually a happy amateur who has just experimented because I enjoy working with my hands.
Regarding the air pressure device, there are smaller, slightly cheaper ones to buy. All you need is actually a funnel and a special nozzle to attach the funnel to. I think you can get it for under 2,000. The reason I didn't invest in it is because I don't have a compressor. With the knowledge of working with a splatter machine, I would have looked a bit more at a nozzle, considering it took some time to get the plaster even.
I don't know if it's possible to rent a splatter machine because they are relatively cheap. You can buy the same one I have at Beijers in Bromma for about 1,500 SEK incl. VAT. I paid 1,300 for mine at Norfloor in Södertälje, but they had to order it since they didn't have it in stock.
The wall turned out pretty much as the picture shows, but there are parts that are not of the same fine quality. Especially along the ground, it became a bit coarser since I had to direct the machine downward. I could have worked that surface a bit finer, but I would then have had to "reload" the machine more often with thinner plaster to make it good, so I compromised and let the plaster be a bit coarser down next to the slope.
I bought the plaster at Beijers in Södertälje, but they in turn consulted Beijers Puts and Fasad in Bromma, who in turn ordered and delivered the plaster to Södertälje.
I will paint the wall with special silicone paint for plaster because the color did not match the house. The wall will be the same color as the light green on the house. We hope it will be better than the green-blue shade that was in the standard range.
Anyway, thank you once again for all the cheerful encouragement. Now the next problem is to cover the wall with the stones we have brought home. Keep your eyes open, and I will post a picture of how the final result will be soon.
I will try to answer your questions, but remember that I am actually a happy amateur who has just experimented because I enjoy working with my hands.
Regarding the air pressure device, there are smaller, slightly cheaper ones to buy. All you need is actually a funnel and a special nozzle to attach the funnel to. I think you can get it for under 2,000. The reason I didn't invest in it is because I don't have a compressor. With the knowledge of working with a splatter machine, I would have looked a bit more at a nozzle, considering it took some time to get the plaster even.
I don't know if it's possible to rent a splatter machine because they are relatively cheap. You can buy the same one I have at Beijers in Bromma for about 1,500 SEK incl. VAT. I paid 1,300 for mine at Norfloor in Södertälje, but they had to order it since they didn't have it in stock.
The wall turned out pretty much as the picture shows, but there are parts that are not of the same fine quality. Especially along the ground, it became a bit coarser since I had to direct the machine downward. I could have worked that surface a bit finer, but I would then have had to "reload" the machine more often with thinner plaster to make it good, so I compromised and let the plaster be a bit coarser down next to the slope.
I bought the plaster at Beijers in Södertälje, but they in turn consulted Beijers Puts and Fasad in Bromma, who in turn ordered and delivered the plaster to Södertälje.
I will paint the wall with special silicone paint for plaster because the color did not match the house. The wall will be the same color as the light green on the house. We hope it will be better than the green-blue shade that was in the standard range.
Anyway, thank you once again for all the cheerful encouragement. Now the next problem is to cover the wall with the stones we have brought home. Keep your eyes open, and I will post a picture of how the final result will be soon.
Thanks for the info. I’ve probably already got hold of such a deviceShrek said:Thanks for all the cheerful comments. I don't know if it's possible to rent a stänkputsapparat since they are relatively cheap. You can buy the same one that I have at Beijers in Bromma for about 1,500 SEK including VAT. I paid 1,300 for mine at Norfloor in Södertälje, but they had to order one because they didn't have it in stock. I bought the plaster at Beijers in Södertälje, but they consulted Beijers Puts och Fasad in Bromma, who ordered and delivered the plaster to Södertälje. Keep an eye out, and I'll post a picture of the final result in the future.
So, keep working now...Looking forward to the pictures I just wanted to inform those who may have followed this thread that the work is currently on hold due to the darn weather >. Since we are going to paint the pusten, it must be completely dry, which requires three to four days of sunshine, but that seems to be too much to ask for these days.
I will return with more information about the end result once I've painted the pusten and placed the top stones.
/Shrek
. Since we are going to paint the pusten, it must be completely dry, which requires three to four days of sunshine, but that seems to be too much to ask for these days.I will return with more information about the end result once I've painted the pusten and placed the top stones.
/Shrek
Wall finished!
Now I have had enough sunshine to be able to paint the textured surface.
You can clearly see in the image below that the surface gets a much softer texture when it's painted, but that doesn't bother us. On the contrary, it becomes a bit of a "friendlier" wall and the irregularities in the texture disappear better when it's painted.
On the wall, we will later add stones that are actually meant to be laid on the ground or used to build walls, but we thought the texture was so nice that we chose these stones as caps on the wall and posts.
In summary, the construction of the wall consisted of the following:
1. Concrete footing that is reinforced under the entire wall.
2. The wall built with concrete blocks with reinforcement bars between each level.
3. On the concrete blocks, we applied a 10 mm layer of Mortar B.
4. On the mortar, we applied a layer of textured/plaster/finish stucco (different names for a popular product) using a texturing machine.
5. The surface is then painted with serpo 303 silicon paint, which we mixed to match the color of the house.
6. On the wall, there are Bradstone stones from Starka.
Economically, I can't claim that this is a better choice than building a retaining wall using block/stone. The reason for this is actually the time spent learning how to do it and the time to build. The material for about 30 meters of retaining wall according to this concept is around 15,000 kronor. In addition, there are lots of work hours.
But, you have to agree that the wall is so much nicer than many of the walls you see in newly built areas today
Well, that's all about my wall.
Now I have had enough sunshine to be able to paint the textured surface.
You can clearly see in the image below that the surface gets a much softer texture when it's painted, but that doesn't bother us. On the contrary, it becomes a bit of a "friendlier" wall and the irregularities in the texture disappear better when it's painted.
On the wall, we will later add stones that are actually meant to be laid on the ground or used to build walls, but we thought the texture was so nice that we chose these stones as caps on the wall and posts.
In summary, the construction of the wall consisted of the following:
1. Concrete footing that is reinforced under the entire wall.
2. The wall built with concrete blocks with reinforcement bars between each level.
3. On the concrete blocks, we applied a 10 mm layer of Mortar B.
4. On the mortar, we applied a layer of textured/plaster/finish stucco (different names for a popular product) using a texturing machine.
5. The surface is then painted with serpo 303 silicon paint, which we mixed to match the color of the house.
6. On the wall, there are Bradstone stones from Starka.
Economically, I can't claim that this is a better choice than building a retaining wall using block/stone. The reason for this is actually the time spent learning how to do it and the time to build. The material for about 30 meters of retaining wall according to this concept is around 15,000 kronor. In addition, there are lots of work hours.
But, you have to agree that the wall is so much nicer than many of the walls you see in newly built areas today
Well, that's all about my wall.
Well, what should one think when there's a "mini-trampoline" on the pole.
The camera eye has played a trick on us. The trampoline is on the neighbor's yard in front of the house in the background, but because it's so bright outside, the depth of field is so sharp that it looks like the trampoline is on the pole. ;D
The camera eye has played a trick on us. The trampoline is on the neighbor's yard in front of the house in the background, but because it's so bright outside, the depth of field is so sharp that it looks like the trampoline is on the pole. ;D