Hello!

I have a question regarding whether the circled wall is load-bearing or not; it is in a BRF, and the building was constructed in 1936.

I know the forum is bombarded with this type of question, but unfortunately, I find it very difficult to interpret the drawing myself. I've tried to read up on what documents might be needed and tried to find these, please let me know if something else is required. On the floor plan, I have marked the walls I am wondering about.

Thank you in advance!

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  • Floor plan showing a 1936 apartment layout with a highlighted wall in question about its load-bearing status, featuring rooms like kitchen and living room.
  • Floor plan of a 1936 building with marked walls in question. Rooms include living rooms, bedrooms, kitchens, and bathrooms.
  • Architectural drawing of a five-story building section labeled 1 to 5, showing structural lines and dimensions, dated 1936, with handwritten notes.
  • Blueprint of a 1936 building floor plan with multiple rooms and marked walls; user inquiries about a potentially load-bearing wall.
Would you trust unknown people on an internet forum on a question like this? :)

Personally, I would have consulted the board first.
 
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S Staffan-N said:
Personally, I would have consulted the board first.
Which will refer you to purchase the service for 15,000 kr from a designer who will write an opinion statement.
 
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Claes Sörmland Claes Sörmland said:
Which will refer to you purchasing the service for 15,000 kr from a designer who writes a statement.
Usually, it's not that expensive to just get a statement.
Check with the association. It may have already been investigated for another apartment.
 
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H hempularen said:
Usually not too expensive to just get an opinion.
Check with the association. It may already have been investigated for another apartment.
If no site visit is required, it becomes cheaper. Otherwise, you are usually billed around 10,000-15,000 SEK (including VAT) for a site visit and a report here in Stockholm. I don't know how many such invoices I've paid on behalf of the BRF, and they always fall within that range. But if you find someone who works the assembly line towards consumers, it can probably be lower; consumers tend to be more budget-conscious. Previously, these would advertise in the local newspaper and were usually a guy with his own firm in the area.
 
Claes Sörmland Claes Sörmland said:
Krävs inget platsbesök så blir det ju billigare. Men annars brukar man faktureras kring 10000-15 000 kr (med moms inräknat) för ett platsbesök och ett protokoll här i Stockholm. Jag vet inte hur många sådana där räkningar jag har betalt för BRFens räkning och de ligger alltid i den häraden. Men hittar man någon som jobbar löpande bandet mot konsument så kan det nog ligga lägre, konsumenter brukar hålla hårdare i plånboken. Förr annonserade dessa i typ lokaltidningen och brukade vara en gubbe med egen firma på orten.
Menar du att det är styrelsen som anlitat ? Tänker att de kanske saftar på mer när det är en styrelse som kan betala.
När jag som privatperson anlitade en firma så betalade jag 3000 kr tot. Detta var väl 2016/17 i stockholm. Men vissa andra firmor ville ha 10k.
 
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Viktor.J Viktor.J said:
Do you mean that it is the board that hired them? I think they might charge more when it's a board that can pay.
When I as a private individual hired a company, I paid 3000 SEK total. This was probably 2016/17 in Stockholm. But some other companies wanted 10k.
Then we have the same perspective. 3,000 SEK must be an unbeatable bargain!
 
I perceived the green as your apartment?
The blue ones seem to be load-bearing.
The red is what you want to remove. They are not included in the plan of the building's load-bearing parts, so it should not be a problem. However, you must check the ventilation, as the kitchen is supposed to have exhaust air, but it used to be where you have a small bedroom today.
Blueprint showing an apartment layout with green, blue, and red markings. Green outlines the apartment, blue marks load-bearing walls, and red indicates removable walls.
 
Claes Sörmland Claes Sörmland said:
Then we have the same view. 3,000 SEK must be an unbeatable find!
To be honest, I did much of the work for him. I drew up plans and materials, drilled holes in the wall. He looked at the wall, looked at the plans, and explained how it was built, then I could tear down the wall. It feels like it quickly becomes cheaper if it's a non-load-bearing wall and that can quickly be determined.
 
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Viktor.J Viktor.J said:
To be honest, I did a lot of the work for him. I prepared drawings and materials, drilled holes in the wall. He looked at the wall, looked at the drawings, and explained how it was built, then I could demolish the wall. Feels like it quickly becomes cheaper if it's a non-load-bearing wall and it's quickly possible to determine.
Haha, yes there is always an explanation for what first seems to be free lunches... Another classic is that people often forget to mention that they have deducted ROT from the amount they report here on BH. Admittedly what they paid but not what the company charged. Or VAT...

But my suggested 15,000 SEK is probably overly pessimistic. But I added a bit more to my usual "around 10,000 SEK" because we've had hyperinflation in the Stockholm construction market in recent years. But maybe it doesn't apply to the structural engineers.
 
Claes Sörmland Claes Sörmland said:
Haha, yes, there is always an explanation for what initially seems like free lunches... Another classic is that people usually forget to mention that they have deducted ROT from the amount they state here on BH. Indeed it's what they paid but not what the company charged. Or VAT...

But my suggested 15,000 SEK is probably overly pessimistic. But I added a bit to my usual "around 10,000 SEK" because we've had hyperinflation in the Stockholm construction market in recent years. But maybe that doesn't apply to the engineers.
Agree.

Additionally, I can say that the hardest part is finding someone. Small firms usually don't want to take the job, especially not for private individuals, and large firms don't care about you. Quite strange, I think it would be a super business for a construction engineer to spend 1 day per assignment and earn 5-10k per day without having to invest a penny in machines or the like. :)
 
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@Claes Sörmland, @Staffan-N, @Viktor.J Thanks for many wise answers, totally agree that one should be cautious with advice from strangers online!
Here, my thought was to do a little pre-analysis before I make a bigger project out of it. If it quickly can be determined like "That wall absolutely cannot be removed," then I can factor in the cost of, for example, installing a beam there instead in the calculations.

@Anna_H Correct, green is the apartment, red to be removed. Which of the drawings do you see indicates that this is not load-bearing?
 
A anbl said:
@Anna_H Correct, green is the apartment, red is removed. Which of the drawings are you seeing that this is not load-bearing?
The section drawing. Also, only the blue ones are drawn on the floor plan. But @justusandersson can surely confirm or deny.
 
@Anna_H Thanks for the clarification, I am a complete novice at this. What are the marked parts showing on this drawing?
 
  • Floor plan with highlighted sections in pink indicating specific areas or features for clarification.
A anbl said:
@Anna_H Thank you for the clarification, I am a complete novice at this. What are the marked parts on this drawing?
That is the bjälklag. A little simplified, one can say that the ends of the bjälklag are placed on load-bearing walls.
 
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