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I'm going to install windows in the attefall house. Have ordered PVC windows from nordiska fönster.

The windows are not mounted like "normal" windows with frame screws or screws through the frame. Instead, this window is mounted with a type of clips that are then screwed into the studs.

Partly I don't think it seems quite durable, but then it will be in the way of the window reveal.

Now I've only put them in provisionally without tightening the screws too hard. I'm considering using foam sealant and then removing them. Would that work?

How would you attach the windows?

PVC window partially installed in wooden frame, using metal clips. A manual clamp holds the window temporarily in place. Forest view through the window. PVC window partially installed in a wooden frame using metal clips, with an exterior view through the glass and a label on the window. PVC window installed in a wooden frame with clips, view of outdoors through the glass. Window mounting process shown with construction tools nearby. PVC window installed in a wooden frame with metal clips, showing partial insulation and construction details inside a small house project.
 
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It looks flimsy. What does it say in the bruxen? I wouldn't want to install larger windows this way considering wind load and other factors.
 
Yes, I have installed some of those windows. Unfortunately, I think they're a bit of a hassle. They work fine when they aren't large operable windows. But if they're fixed windows, they work well, though I usually use spray foam to make sure they sit firmly. However, you won't be able to remove the clips after you've used spray foam, but you could trim off the parts that stick out, though I don't think that's necessary? I saw that you used clamps when positioning the window. A tip is to use adjustable screws instead, which you can level and then just place the window on. That usually works the smoothest way (y)
 
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S Snickarkirre said:
Yes, I've installed some of those windows. Unfortunately, I think they're a bit of a hassle. They work fine when they're not large openable windows. But if they are fixed windows, it works well, but I usually foam them so they really sit. You won't be able to remove the clips after you foam, but you could cut off what sticks out, but I don't think that's necessary? I saw you used clamps when you placed the window. A tip is to use adjusting screws instead, which you level and then just place the window on. That usually works the smoothest (y)
Then I'll go with foam (y)

How did you do when you set the lining? Didn't the clips get in the way then?

They're not clamps. They're two Viking arms they're standing on. Just pump up the window until it's level. Pretty smooth actually.
 
Use the metal items
Shim as usual, screw the plates down properly.

Or place blocks in appropriate places.

The trims will be within the linings, right? That's always how it has turned out for me.
 
It depends on how you plan to mount the trim? Are you going to install battens inside the wall with something like a 45mm or so? Otherwise, you'll either have to bend them over the edge of the batten or cut off what sticks out beyond the batten. I usually just glue the trims with something like PL800 or a similar adhesive. Just put large blobs of glue and then press the trim into the glue. If there's a large gap between the batten and where the window trim is supposed to sit, just glue pieces of plywood until you're almost at the place where the trim is supposed to go, then put a big blob of glue on the plywood piece and press the trim.

Yes, I saw that they were those, just didn't know what they were called ;) it was just a tip that I think works fine, but tastes differ. One thing to consider, how does it work when you remove them, do the windows stay in place or do they shift a bit? I was just thinking since they're only hanging on the clips.
 
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That depends on how you plan to mount the casing? Are you going to frame the wall inside with something like a 45mm or so? Otherwise, you either have to bend them over the edge of the stud or cut off what's sticking out beyond the stud. I usually just glue the casings with something like PL800 or a similar adhesive. Just apply big blobs of glue and then press the casing into the glue. If there's a big gap between the stud and where the window casing is supposed to sit, you just glue bits of plywood until you're almost at the place where the casing should be. Then you put a big blob of glue on the plywood piece and press the casing against it.

Yeah, I saw they were like that, just didn't know what they were called ;) just a tip that I think works fine, but tastes differ. Just a thought though, when you remove them does the window stay or does it settle in any way? I was thinking especially since they hang only in the clips.
Going to buy expanding foam, then we'll see if the window moves when I remove the viking arms :)
 
Sounds like a plan (y) you got what I meant with the "smygarna", right? I'm maybe not the most pedagogical.
 
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I will buy some foam sealant, then we'll see if the window moves when I remove the viking arms :)
No, it won't do that.
Buy mounting foam, not foam sealant, it expands too much.
 
I think foam in a wooden frame always goes wrong, you remove all the adjustment margin when it moves, and then it cracks and creates drafts, I've torn off so much trim and air just flows in.
 
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Sounds like a plan (y) did you get what I meant with the smygarna? Maybe not the most pedagogical exactly.
Haha no not really :rofl:
 
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M MattEri said:
I think foam in a wooden frame always goes wrong, you remove all adjustment allowance when it moves, and then it cracks and causes drafts, I've torn off so much trim and air just streams in.
How would you have attached a window like this?
 
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Haha no not really :rofl:
Haha okay, I'll give it another try. But I don't think the clips will come off anyway. You might just need to set the trim a little further into the window. That will leave quite a gap between the trim and the framing around the window, but you can just use plywood pieces or whatever you happen to have at home as spacers. Let's say there's a 30mm gap, you just apply a dab of glue, press a plywood piece in, then another dab for another piece of plywood, and then you'll have about 25mm. On that window you've installed now, you'll need to build out at each corner like that, and also have spacers in the middle of the long sides. Once that's done, you apply a big dab of glue to the spacers and then set the trim in place. That way you won't need to screw or nail the trim, so you won't have any ugly holes.

Regarding foam sealant, it doesn't matter on those plastic windows because they can't be adjusted afterward. They stay where they are. That's the downside of operable plastic windows; if they sag, they can't be adjusted afterward. So go ahead with foam sealant (y).
 
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Haha okay, then I'll make another attempt. But I don't think the clips will work anyway. You might just have to set the casing a bit farther in on the window. There will be quite a large gap between the casing and the frame around the window, but you just need to use plywood pieces or whatever you might have at home to use as spacers. Say it's a 30mm gap, then you just put a dab of glue, press a plywood piece there, then another dab, and another plywood; you end up with about 25mm. For the window you installed now, you have to build out in each corner like that, and then also need spacers in the middle of the long sides. Once that's done, apply a generous amount of glue on the spacers and attach the casing. Then you neither need to screw nor nail into the casing, so you won't have any ugly holes.

Regarding foam sealant, it doesn’t matter on those plastic windows because they can't be adjusted afterward. They are where they are. This is what's unfortunate about openable plastic windows because if they sag, they can't be adjusted afterward. So go for the foam sealant (y)
Yes, it can be adjusted, but you adjust the sash, not the frame.
 
Well then, it doesn't matter if it is skimmed or not since the karmen remains where it was.
 
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