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Pouring levelling compound through a hose.
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I have had underfloor heating pipes laid in the basement and am going to pour self-leveling compound. I'm getting help with it but am toying with the idea of easing the distribution by pouring the compound via a barrel with a drain and a thick hose. The barrel can stand on a high pallet/stand 1.5 or higher.
Has anyone tried? There will be a lot of stepping on the underfloor heating pipes with buckets as it's 25 sqm and an elongated room.
A leveling pump is out according to the attached construction company taken on by the plumber for the leveling. Faster with several people mixing or if it was difficult to rent a mixing pump. (Gbg). I saw a video with a leveling pump online and it was very slow to get the compound out. It was still a commercial.
The barrel and hose can be discarded if they cannot be cleaned.
The question is whether it will flow out through a 10m long hose from a 2m high positioned container. It will cover the heating in the first leveling and then build a slope. The second leveling will then be less sensitive to stepping on the heating pipes. Can use the max water amount in the first round.
Has anyone tried?
Has anyone tried? There will be a lot of stepping on the underfloor heating pipes with buckets as it's 25 sqm and an elongated room.
A leveling pump is out according to the attached construction company taken on by the plumber for the leveling. Faster with several people mixing or if it was difficult to rent a mixing pump. (Gbg). I saw a video with a leveling pump online and it was very slow to get the compound out. It was still a commercial.
The barrel and hose can be discarded if they cannot be cleaned.
The question is whether it will flow out through a 10m long hose from a 2m high positioned container. It will cover the heating in the first leveling and then build a slope. The second leveling will then be less sensitive to stepping on the heating pipes. Can use the max water amount in the first round.
Has anyone tried?
But if the construction company is going to apply self-leveling compound, you shouldn't get involved in how they do it, right? If you trust the foreman, let them do it the way they usually do; I think it will be best.
I think you're going to have problems! Self-leveling compound hardens quickly, and it's best if one person mixes in several buckets while another person runs with the buckets. Ideally, a third person should spread out the compound so it goes where it should.
But don't you think that the "amateur" has better ideas than the pros?? I thought a spackelpump was superior for slightly larger areas. Why, well that's what you use on all bigger jobs. But it gets a bit expensive on such a relatively small job. And on slightly larger "small jobs" you don't usually use a bucket but rather a barrel with wheels. And it's not difficult to protect the hose, but how to do it is something the pros know.
My thought is that it doesn't set faster just because it flows through a hose. It's continuously a new mixture until the last bucket, then the tube and hose can be cleaned immediately or discarded.thomas33 said:
Sure, a tap at the plasterer's is necessary and maybe even by the barrel. If I were a plasterer, I would appreciate not having to carry a bucket that weighs 30 kg. This means that with quite good precision you need to carry 2 tons over a limited time. But pros probably like to do things the usual way, which is a natural law or the definition of pros.
It's also foolish to take a chance. Things could go downhill.
However, the worst thing about my idea is that you pour out the usual way and put aside the barrel and the scaffolding. Or place the arrangement on wheels.
It's also foolish to take a chance. Things could go downhill.
However, the worst thing about my idea is that you pour out the usual way and put aside the barrel and the scaffolding. Or place the arrangement on wheels.
When leveling a slightly larger floor, you naturally don't do it with one or two people, but at least three or four. One who "levels," two who carry, and one who mixes and sometimes carries. Often you mix in one/two barrel(s) with wheels that you can pull.
Yes, they have. It went better than planned.korsdå said:
http://www.byggahus.se/forum/badrum/221969-ovantat-besok-av-flytspackel.html
Most innovations happen by accident. Naturally, there's a good pull in the two-story siphon. Maybe I should place the whisk guys two floors up to be sure. It definitely seems more convenient to replace bucket carriers with a hose and relieve the plasterer from carrying 25kg less around. Three guys with whisks, a large barrel with a hose. The guys keep the barrel filled all the time except when the rooms start to get finished.
Of course, it can work. The fact that the solution is not commercially available doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad idea. It might just be that the application area is too narrow.
But. Two objections:
1. You at least need to make some attempt first so you're not caught off guard when it's crunch time.
2. If you've hired craftsmen to do a job for you, it’s best to let them do the job their way. Otherwise, they can blame anything that goes wrong on your method.
But. Two objections:
1. You at least need to make some attempt first so you're not caught off guard when it's crunch time.
2. If you've hired craftsmen to do a job for you, it’s best to let them do the job their way. Otherwise, they can blame anything that goes wrong on your method.
One risk is that the spackling compound is too viscous and the flow in the hose cannot manage to run in a horizontal hose. What could otherwise work is a barrel on wheels with a short almost vertical hose to pour out the spackling compound. The barrel should probably be at some meter's height. Might test a few bags. Always fun to think about at least. Then if it doesn't become much faster, it's one thing, just that it becomes more comfortable can mean better precision, for example. Less carrying is also a thing now that the wheel is invented. Have looked a bit at pumps for viscous abrasive substances but untested things that cost are not justifiable at this stage. The barrel with hose and some wheels is affordable.
I can only imagine when you've just started and are on load number 2 and the hose detaches from the barrel, and it takes you 1 minute to notice the error. One is in the room waiting for more self-leveling compound in the hose, and the other two are mixing load 3.
The entire hallway and half the kitchen get covered with a thin layer of self-leveling compound.
If I pay someone for a job, they can make it as difficult for themselves as they like as long as it turns out well. But asking the roofers to dress up as Björne and Snigel when they're roofing can, of course, result in a poorer outcome, and they will obviously blame poor visibility in the costumes.
The entire hallway and half the kitchen get covered with a thin layer of self-leveling compound.
If I pay someone for a job, they can make it as difficult for themselves as they like as long as it turns out well. But asking the roofers to dress up as Björne and Snigel when they're roofing can, of course, result in a poorer outcome, and they will obviously blame poor visibility in the costumes.