Today, there are many products for decking for patios and outdoor spaces that are new and therefore we do not have enough experience with. What we know can be read about here - Test: Best wood type for patio and decking
Wood expert Jöran Jermer would also like to hear about consumers' experiences.
Share your experiences here in the thread, and Jöran will compile everyone's experiences into a report that we can all benefit from. Provide the following:
Any biological attacks: Rot, discoloring fungus (mold) and approximately how long after the year built were attacks observed
Any mechanical problems: Unusual cracking, dimensional changes, corrosion, anything else, and approximately how long after the year built were they observed
Maintenance: Describe whether the structure has been maintained in any way (washing (with what?), wood oil (which?), other (what?) and at what approximate interval. What effect has the maintenance had (the wood has kept roughly original color, kept a nice and pleasant surface, other, or has been largely ineffective (=wasted time and money).
Provide any maintenance tips considering the material.
"Satisfaction": Describe how you have experienced the choice of material for the current construction. Are you satisfied/dissatisfied with the material choice/treatment? Rate on a scale of 1 to 5, where
Material: Newly pressure-treated NTR AB pine erected in March 2020. Treated with SIOOX step 1 and 2 in June 2020. All of SIOOX's recommendations were followed when applying the product.
Any biological attack: No biological attack yet.
Any mechanical problems: Now, in April 2021, just 9 months after applying SIOOX, the silver-gray SIOOX layer is peeling off. See photos.
Maintenance: After applying SIOOX, no maintenance has been performed.
Provide any maintenance tips considering the material: My Danish tip is: do not use SIOOX. It is expensive and poor. Swedish products are usually good (Volvo, Ikea, Kalles Kaviar, Hallberg Rassy, etc.)
"Satisfaction": 1 = very dissatisfied, never SIOOX again
Would have been fun to see a similar test with treated/maintenance treatment (I myself am curious about linoljesåpa)
I have only built with ntr decking 28x120 I have been satisfied
Marlen Eskilsson said:
Today there are many products for decking for patios and outdoor spaces that are new and that we therefore do not have enough experience with. What we know you can read about here - Test: Best wood type for patios and decking
Wood expert Jöran Jermer also wants to hear consumers' experiences.
Share your experiences here in the thread, so Jöran can compile everyone's experiences into a report that we can all benefit from. Specify this:
Any biological attacks: rot, discoloring fungi (mold) and approximately how long after construction the attacks were observed
Any mechanical problems: unusual cracking, dimensional changes, corrosion, anything else and approximately how long after construction they were observed
Maintenance: Describe if the construction has been maintained in any way (washing (with what?), wood oil (which?), other (what?) and at roughly what interval. What effect the maintenance has had (the wood has kept approximately original color, maintained a nice and pleasant surface, other, or was largely without effect (=wasted time and money).
Provide any tips for maintenance considering material.
"Satisfaction": Describe how you have felt/feel about the choice of material for the current construction. Are you satisfied/dissatisfied with the material choice/treatment? Rate on a scale of 1 to 5, where
1= very dissatisfied, never that material again
2= dissatisfied
3= neither satisfied nor dissatisfied/Ok
4= satisfied
5= very satisfied, will use again and recommend
Marlen Eskilsson said:
Today there are many products for decking for patios and outdoor spaces that are new and that we therefore do not have enough experience with. What we know you can read about here - Test: Best wood type for patios and decking
Wood expert Jöran Jermer also wants to hear consumers' experiences.
Share your experiences here in the thread, so Jöran can compile everyone's experiences into a report that we can all benefit from. Specify this:
Any biological attacks: rot, discoloring fungi (mold) and approximately how long after construction the attacks were observed
Any mechanical problems: unusual cracking, dimensional changes, corrosion, anything else and approximately how long after construction they were observed
Maintenance: Describe if the construction has been maintained in any way (washing (with what?), wood oil (which?), other (what?) and at roughly what interval. What effect the maintenance has had (the wood has kept approximately original color, maintained a nice and pleasant surface, other, or was largely without effect (=wasted time and money).
Provide any tips for maintenance considering material.
"Satisfaction": Describe how you have felt/feel about the choice of material for the current construction. Are you satisfied/dissatisfied with the material choice/treatment? Rate on a scale of 1 to 5, where
1= very dissatisfied, never that material again
2= dissatisfied
3= neither satisfied nor dissatisfied/Ok
4= satisfied
5= very satisfied, will use again and recommend
Marlen Eskilsson said:
Today there are many products for decking for patios and outdoor spaces that are new and that we therefore do not have enough experience with. What we know you can read about here - Test: Best wood type for patios and decking
Wood expert Jöran Jermer also wants to hear consumers' experiences.
Share your experiences here in the thread, so Jöran can compile everyone's experiences into a report that we can all benefit from. Specify this:
Any biological attacks: rot, discoloring fungi (mold) and approximately how long after construction the attacks were observed
Any mechanical problems: unusual cracking, dimensional changes, corrosion, anything else and approximately how long after construction they were observed
Maintenance: Describe if the construction has been maintained in any way (washing (with what?), wood oil (which?), other (what?) and at roughly what interval. What effect the maintenance has had (the wood has kept approximately original color, maintained a nice and pleasant surface, other, or was largely without effect (=wasted time and money).
Provide any tips for maintenance considering material.
"Satisfaction": Describe how you have felt/feel about the choice of material for the current construction. Are you satisfied/dissatisfied with the material choice/treatment? Rate on a scale of 1 to 5, where
Certainly, ten-year-old decking that has never been treated. No idea of classification.
Washed and afterward lightly sanded with sandpaper. Detergent; Nordsjö Tinova Wood cleaner.
The board furthest to the right was washed incorrectly, without soaking beforehand. The others were washed correctly.
All are oiled with Nordsjö Tinova Super Terrace. In different colors, the one furthest to the right is colorless.
If any statement is to be made, it's about the detergent. It works excellently.
Today, there are many products for decking for patios and terraces that are new and which we therefore do not have enough experience with. What we know can be read here - Test: Best type of wood for patios and decks
Wood expert Jöran Jermer would also like to hear about consumers' experiences.
Share your experiences here in the thread, and Jöran will compile everyone's experiences in a report that we can all benefit from. Please specify the following:
Possible biological attacks: rot, discoloring fungi (mold) and approximately how long after the year of construction the attacks were observed
Possible mechanical problems: unusual cracking, dimensional changes, corrosion, any other issues and approximately how long after the year of construction they were observed
Maintenance: Describe if the construction has been maintained in any way (washing (with what?), wood oil (which one?), other (what?) and with approximate intervals. What effect has the maintenance had (the wood has retained approximately its original color, retained a nice and pleasant surface, other, or has been mostly ineffective (=wasted time and money).
Please provide any tips for maintenance considering the material.
"Satisfaction": Describe how you have perceived/are perceiving the choice of material for the current construction. Are you satisfied/dissatisfied with the choice of material/treatment? Rate on a scale of 1 to 5, where
1= very dissatisfied, never that material again
2= dissatisfied
3= neither/Ok
4= Satisfied
5= very satisfied, will use again and recommend
Built patio facing east in 2015
After three years, 60 percent of the patio was damaged by rot.
Organowood would only replace 60 percent, but not the rest. Eventually, after arguing, the entire patio was replaced. I had to pay for new screws and carpenter myself.
Consistent rating of 1s.
Wooden deck facing south/southwest on Gotland made from heartwood pine.
Built in 2015.
Treated with Sioo according to instructions.
After about 4 years, the first signs of rot appeared.
So far, approximately 15% of the decking has been replaced due to rot.
I am very dissatisfied and will not use this material in the same way again.
Best regards,
Johan
Marlen Eskilsson said:
Today there are many products for decking for terraces and patios that are new, and therefore we do not have enough experience with them. What we know you can read about here - Test: Best wood species for terraces and decks
Wood expert Jöran Jermer would also like to hear from consumers about their experiences.
Share your experiences here in the thread, and Jöran will compile everyone's experiences into a report that we can all benefit from. Please include the following:
Type of construction: Terrace, fence, plank, etc.?
Any biological attacks: rot, discoloring fungi (mold), and approximately how long after construction the attack was observed
Any mechanical problems: unusual cracking, dimensional changes, corrosion, any other issues, and approximately how long after construction they were observed
Maintenance: Describe if the construction has been maintained in any way (washing (with what?), wood oil (which one?), other (what?), and at roughly what intervals. What effect has the maintenance had (the wood has retained roughly its original color, kept a nice and pleasant surface, other, or been mostly ineffective (=wasted time and money).
Provide any tips for maintenance considering the material.
"Satisfaction": Describe how you have experienced/are experiencing the choice of material for the current construction. Are you satisfied/dissatisfied with the choice of material/treatment? Rate on a scale of 1 to 5, where
Today there are many products for decking for the patio and outdoor areas that are new and which we therefore do not have enough experience with. What we know can be read here - Test: Best wood type for patio and deck
Wood expert Jöran Jermer would like to also hear about consumers' experiences.
Share your experiences here in the thread, and Jöran will compile everyone's experiences into a report that we can all benefit from. Please specify this:
Any biological attacks: rot, discoloring fungi (mold) and approximately how long after the year of construction the attacks were observed
Any mechanical problems: unusual cracking, dimensional changes, corrosion, anything else and approximately how long after the year of construction they were observed
Maintenance: Describe if the construction has been maintained in any way (cleaning (with what?), wood oil (which?), other (what?) and with approximate interval. What effect has the maintenance had (the wood has retained approximately the original color, retained a nice and comfortable surface, other, or been largely without effect (=wasted time and money).
Provide any maintenance tips considering the material.
"Satisfaction": Describe how you have experienced/are experiencing the choice of material for the current construction. Are you satisfied/dissatisfied with the material choice/treatment? Rate on a scale of 1 to 5, where
1= very dissatisfied, never this material again
2= dissatisfied
3= neither/Ok
4= satisfied
5= very satisfied, will use again and recommend
patio 2005 in larch. West-facing 500 m from the sea. Oiled once, since then untreated. Replaced a piece about 120 cm that rotted. Rating 4.
Placement: Southeast and Southwest Regularly sun-exposed
Possible biological attacks: none
Mechanical deficiencies: very few! The decking is dead straight and holds its shape... however, the decking had an edge profile and was fastened without visible screws with plastic fittings between the planks... in a few places, the lower "flange" cracked so the plank could move...
on the outermost plank, you had to pre-drill and use visible screws... I built with a slight overhang so the outermost plank/frame hung over the bearer... this resulted in an exposed outer plank cracking.
Maintenance: Oiled with pigmented wood oil from Tinnova every other year... turned out great every time!
The wash before oiling was done with Jotun's decking cleaner... soaked the decking, rolled on the cleaner over a few sqm, then brushed! Rinsed off before moving on to the next area
Provide any maintenance tips considering the material.
"Satisfaction": 4-5
5 for how neat it looks with dead straight decking planks without visible screws!
5 for how easy it was to lay! The wood weighs half of what treated wood weighs... and the planks are dead straight!
5 for how it maintains its finish if you take care of it
4. You need to wash and oil it every other year if you want it looking nice...(not for protection against rot) but on a larger area than 40-50 sqm, it becomes a bit of brushing.
The picture shows the decking outside the main entrance (high traffic all year round) after 8 years (two months after oiling)
Type of construction: Deck, i.e., plenty of air underneath compared to many others' "decks" which are ground-level and really wooden terraces.
Year built: 2014
Material: Pressure-treated NTR A for the framework, decking Pressure-treated NTR AB.
Placement: Direction? Southwest. Very sunny from 11-18 during the summer months.
Any biological attacks: Absolutely none.
Any mechanical problems: No. Some dry cracks in certain boards but that's to be expected.
Maintenance: Linseed soap, washing + soaping in spring and autumn every year. Now after 6 years, beautifully silver-gray just as I want it. (Siiooo or whatever it's called is money down the drain, you get the same result)
Satisfaction: 5 out of 5, go with pressure-treated and don't oil it, it just draws the dirt into the wood. Soap several times a year, it takes about an hour, replacing the deck every ten years takes more than 20 hours. Totally worth it.
Today there are many products for decking for terraces and patios that are new and thus we do not have enough experience with. What we know you can read about here - Test: Best wood type for decking and patio
Wood expert Jöran Jermer is also keen to learn from consumers' experiences.
Share your experiences here in the thread, and Jöran will compile everyone's experiences in a report that we can all benefit from. Specify this:
Type of construction: Terrace, fence, plank, etc.?
Possible biological attacks: rot, discoloring fungus (mold) and approximately how long after the year of construction the attack was observed
Possible mechanical problems: unusual cracking, dimensional changes, corrosion, or other and approximately how long after the year of construction they were observed
Maintenance: Describe if the construction has been maintained in any way (washing (with what?), wood oil (which?), other (what then?) and at approximately what interval. What effect has the maintenance had (the wood has retained roughly original color, retained a fine and pleasant surface, other, or been pretty much without effect (=wasted time and money).
Provide any maintenance tips considering the material.
"Satisfaction": Describe how you have experienced/do experience the choice of material for the specific construction. Are you satisfied/dissatisfied with the material choice/treatment? Indicate on a scale of 1 to 5, where
1= very dissatisfied, never again that material
2= dissatisfied
3= neither/nor/Ok
4= Satisfied
5= very satisfied, will use again and recommend
Great initiative!
It would also be interesting to know the geographical location, as there is a big difference in humidity and weather conditions between a coastal plot in Gothenburg and near mountains in western Norrland. A guess is that it can make a big difference in lifespan, especially for untreated wood.
I built my deck, which is 16x10 meters, using regular pressure-treated decking boards 22x38 and 500 cc on the supporting joists underneath. This was because I wanted a soft deck to walk on, and it turned out really well. I laid the side that looked the best facing up. I don't use a pressure washer to clean the deck in the spring, as it's unnecessary to force water into the boards. Every spring, I scrub the deck with water and "grönsåpa" soap, which removes the green where the flower pots have been. The screws I used were standard decking screws C4 4.2x55, which were the cheapest and perform their function. I first used wood oil after 4 years and bought a wood oil with a slight brown tint from Byggmax. The deck is now in its 7th year, and I have no cracks in the boards. The deck has visible screws, and the joints on the boards ended up where they did, but what does it matter—I built the deck for us to use and walk on, not to show off to others.
I built the deck so we could use and walk on it, not to show it off to others
Exactly, if you consider the deck/patio as an outdoor floor, you'll be more satisfied, I think. That's exactly what it is. An outdoor floor. It gets dirty, it should be easy to clean, you'll get cracks, it's not a big deal or you can replace a board, it can still look neat. Whole and clean is the main thing. That and putting 90% of the work into planning, a proper groundwork and framework.
Type of construction: Facade panel, roof, and deck in Siberian larch
Year of construction: 2010
Material: Siberian larch (Larix sibirica)
Placement: facade and roof in all directions, deck facing south
Possible biological issues: Rot damage on one deck plank at the end
Possible mechanical issues: Some splinters after a few years that have disappeared over time and maintenance
Maintenance: Soaked the deck to then scrub with a hard brush and green soap in spring and autumn, then rinse off. After treatment, the larch becomes slightly more wood-colored and each year develops an even finer silvery-gray tone. The surface becomes softer and more comfortable to walk on after each scrubbing. Requires hand scrubbing with force. No other products or oils used.
Facade and roof have never been maintained and have a rough surface.
Satisfaction: 5
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