As the title says, we are in the process of removing a wall between the large room and a bedroom to get more light and make the large room airier.

We have removed the chipboards that were on the walls between the rooms but left the frame/studs they were attached to.
Each board had its own "frame" with three studs they were nailed to, and we have removed the stud in the middle of each "frame."
Measured the height between the ceiling and floor before and after, the ceiling dropped 5mm when we removed a center stud in each "frame," so to speak, I can't recall exactly now, but say it was 2360mm and then 2355mm (in each frame).

That made me a little puzzled and I stopped there. :)
So the question is whether I need to install a beam in between, or if it might be risk-free.

The house is a 1½-story from '73, I am attaching drawings of the house and the wall itself.
 
  • Blueprint sketches showing a side elevation and cross-section of a one-and-a-half-story house from 1973 with detailed measurements.
  • Floor plans of a 1½-story house from 1973, showing the layout of rooms including the living room, bedrooms, kitchen, and garage.
  • Wall with removed wallboards and exposed framing studs in a partial demolition project, with a crowbar on the floor beside the wall.
  • Open wall space between two rooms showing removed wall panels with wooden studs. Visible items include a vacuum cleaner, cardboard boxes, and a window.
F finntrollet said:
As the title says, we are in the process of removing a wall between the living room and a bedroom to let in more light and have a more airy living room.

We have removed the chipboards that were on the walls between the rooms, but left the frame/studs they were attached to. Each board had its own "frame" with three studs they were nailed to, and we have removed the middle stud in each. Measured the height between the ceiling and floor before and after, the ceiling dropped 5mm when we removed a middle stud in each "frame" so to speak, I don't remember exactly now, but let's say it was 2360mm and then 2355mm (in each frame).

It got me a little curious and I stopped there. :)
So the question is whether I need to fix a beam in between, or if it might be risk-free.

The house is a 1½ story from -73, attached are drawings of the house and the wall itself.

If I understand you correctly, is the lintel in each frame now bent downward? So you have two different measurements in each frame, a lower in the middle and a higher at the edge?

The construction itself doesn't look load-bearing imo.
 
That wall is highly unlikely to have any load-bearing function.
However, the wall that the aquarium is against is load-bearing.
This is evident from the section drawing.
 
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No, it does not appear to be load-bearing.
 
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GoC GoC said:
That wall is most unlikely to have any load-bearing function. However, the wall that the aquarium stands against is load-bearing. This is evident from the section drawing
Isn't the aquarium against an exterior wall? The wall opposite the aquarium, i.e., between the kitchen and living room, is likely load-bearing, isn't it?
 
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H hrt said:
Isn't the aquarium against an exterior wall? The wall opposite the aquarium, i.e., between the kitchen and living room, is likely load-bearing, right?
It appears to be, yes. But regardless, the flimsy chipboard wall is not load-bearing, while the heart wall in the house is load-bearing.
 
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Seems like everyone agrees but why did the ceiling drop 5 mm?
 
The wall with the aquarium is the outer wall, yes, and opposite is the middle of the house.

Yeah, it was just that the roof sank a bit that made me wonder... But now that I think about it, I measured against the frame from which we removed a stud. Maybe it was just under tension?

Maybe remove another one in the middle and measure between the floor and the ceiling then. ‍♂️
 
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F finntrollet said:
The wall with the aquarium is an outer wall, yes, and opposite is the middle of the house.

Yeah, it was just that the roof sank a bit that made me wonder... But now that I think about it, I measured against the frame where we removed a stud. Maybe it was just under tension?

Maybe remove another one in the middle and measure between the floor and the ceiling then. ‍♂️
Yes, now you have to measure again. The suspense is unbearable ;)
 
F finntrollet said:
The wall with the aquarium is an exterior wall, yes, and opposite is the middle of the house.

Well, it was just the roof dropping a bit that made me puzzled... But now that I think about it, I measured against the frame from which we knocked out a stud. Maybe it was just under tension?

Maybe book another one in the middle and measure between the floor and the ceiling then. ‍♂️

That could be it. Go for it!
 
Then we have loosened three of the four that were left in the middle, measured before and after between the floor and the ceiling, 2385mm before and only sank 1-2mm.

I sneaked on the upper floor while my sister measured downstairs, couldn't see the ceiling moving, not even when I did a little gymnastics with small jumps.
 
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H hrt said:
Isn't the aquarium against an exterior wall? The wall opposite the aquarium, i.e., between the kitchen and the living room, is probably load-bearing, right?
It is load-bearing, yes. It's visible on the foundation, which is reinforced right there.
 
What about this? Nibble on concrete to make it level with the rest of the slab there?
 
  • Gap between wooden floor and concrete slab with exposed screws and debris.
  • Gap in wooden floor exposing concrete, suggesting adding more concrete to level it with the remaining slab.
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What is the plan then? Keep the existing floors?
 
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F finntrollet said:
What about this? Chew on concrete to get it level with the rest of the slab there?
Where does the vp pipe go?
 
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