Mikael_L
Yes, if you want to find something simple and quick to use, but not as sturdy and troublesome to mount as a molly, for mounting in drywall on ceilings and walls?
What nice options are available?

First, you can start with a slightly coarser threaded screw:
Such as this one that electricians like to use to attach light items directly in drywall. Cable channels and possibly some outlets.
A metal screw with a flat head and coarse threads, suitable for mounting light objects onto drywall, often used by electricians.

But this doesn't hold particularly fantastically; for slightly heavier mounting, it quickly becomes unsuitable. And it also requires a very careful hand during installation.

What is the next step?
Plugs that bunch up on the backside?
An illustration of a drywall anchor with a screw in a gypsum board, showing installation method in walls or ceilings.
http://www.lensona.se/mea-universalplugg-p-101.html?sort=3d&page=1
Fischer and many others have similar products.

Impact plugs of some kind?
A metal drywall anchor with a pointed tip and hollow body, designed for attaching light fittings to plasterboard.

Drywall anchors that you screw into the board?
Two screw anchors for drywall installation, depicted with wide threading and cross-shaped heads, suitable for lightweight mounting in gypsum board.

Let's hear what you usually use, and what you think about the products! :)
 
I think drywall anchors work well; if it's just a small picture to hang, I usually drive a brad in at a slight upward angle. Otherwise, it's not too much trouble with molly bolts if you've invested in a molly setter for about fifty kronor and a drill bit in the right dimension. There are also good molly hooks for ceiling lights if you have a plastered ceiling.
 
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I usually run Duo-Max, an old occupational hazard from the electric gadget days.
 
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Fotografen said:
I usually use Duo-Max, an old occupational hazard from my time with elmickleritiden.
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Otherwise, I have searched online for Gunnebo universal plug GB, but I'm starting to suspect that it has been discontinued from the range. Still, I'll have to test mine, and if they're good, I'll be careful with the roughly 100 I have left. :cool:

Otherwise, I've found Fischer UX, which seems to be somewhat similar.
http://www.harald-nyborg.se/fischer-ux-uniplugg-6x35-50-st.html
http://www.fischersverige.se/Portal...an_infastning/_dokument/Universalplugg_UX.pdf
It's good that the smaller one manages with a 6mm hole (like Gunnebo GB) so you don't have to make giant holes.
 
Primarily, I try to find a stud to screw into...
...secondarily, I screw a board into one or more studs and attach to this instead.

I've tried most of the fasteners mentioned above and more; if there's any uneven load or vibrations, either the plug or the drywall often gives way after a while.

I've even once opened up the drywall and (through the drywall) screwed a wide board behind it, replaced the drywall, patched and painted for a durable solution.

Molly is otherwise the best. I've used a variant that looks roughly like Molly but is also made of plastic. It was quite good, but required a larger hole (a variant of the plugging plug above and Fischer UX). I think the nail plug above works well for attaching floor and ceiling moldings in drywall, as well as for a lightweight picture - but it's not for a medium-heavy fastener.

I don't have good experience with drywall anchors that screw in, they pulverize the drywall quite quickly even with mild vibrations (slamming the front door so the walls shake is something that happens sometimes).
 
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Fotografen said:
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Well, look at that. It also only needs a 6 mm hole for the smallest version. I think it's good to have fastenings that don't require making bomb crater-sized holes if it's just a small, fairly light item that needs to be attached.
 
I would have tried with snap toggles. Never tried them myself but seems convenient.
 
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Molly is enough for me. Holds a couple of towel warmers and a small cabinet in place.
I only have plaster in the wet rooms, and you're hardly allowed to screw there anyway.

All other walls are in good old wood, thank goodness :)

PS
It's not for nothing that I was named KnockOnWood :cool:
 
Thomas59
Everything except Molly, which is a dj-ens invention.

Maybe not for someone who has Molly pliers, but for most others who are not pros. The dj-vulen is waiting for you until the day the Molly plug needs to be removed.

There are other simpler fastening methods that are just as good or better.

For example, snap toggles that can be mounted without tools (compared to Molly pliers), require smaller holes, are completely flush with the wall, can bear more load, have longer screws (sometimes necessary), are easy to remove without damaging the drywall (no tools needed).

I actually can't think of any reason to use a Molly plug. Can you?
 
OXYD
Never remove an unused molly. Tap it a millimeter into the drywall and spackle over it :)
 
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On all "real" Molly, the outer flange can easily be broken off, so that it can be punched in if it needs to be removed.

And of course, you have a molly pliers in the toolbox!
A molly gun with red handles, used for installing and removing molly bolts in construction projects and renovations.

OXYD said:
Never remove molly that is not used. Hammer it in a millimeter into the plaster and spackle over it :)
That might not be so smart if it's in a wet room with thick plastic wall coverings :confused:
 
What is by far the best for slightly larger loads is called PLATTIPLUGG. There are a few different sizes, but GOOGLE and see.
There is NOTHING that can withstand the same load in plasterboard.
 
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OXYD
That was new. Didn't know you could break off the flange on a molly. I think they usually stick like hell. You write real molly. What brand is it?
 
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