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Is it so wrong to nail up plasterboards indoors?
I must admit that I hate everything, absolutely EVERYTHING about drywall. They are heavy, cumbersome, fragile, and it makes a mess and just keeps going.
Then I have to admit their advantages, they are dimensionally stable and can be plastered completely smoothly at the edges, cheap, fireproof, etc. And I know how much worse it gets with, for example, chipboard; it is installed since old times in places around the house, and it has cracked at the seams almost everywhere.
I have a screw gun but found it went so much worse with it that I went back to a regular drill. And you have to be so damn careful, and yet the screw still tends to go crooked. You have to press like hell on the drill to get the damn Phillips screw to go in, and then you still have to go back and forth a few times to get it to sit properly. The base is 10mm OSB on a very uneven plank wall. (I use OSB for both time and convenience reasons. I can pay 65/m2 for OSB and get it even enough for drywall in a few minutes, or spend half a day per drywall messing with strips of Tretex and crap, and it still turns out poorly).
So yesterday I was just patching a small piece in a tight spot where I couldn't fit the drill, and thought, "oh well, I'll nail it." And it was like a dream, even in that difficult space the nail head laid perfectly so that it pressed the paper without tearing it. So as a test, I placed some more in other spots. Same result. Used a thin wire nail, 50x2. It went fast too, and oh how much kinder it was on my now quite tired arm.
Why shouldn't I just continue with this all the way, for example, screw in the OSB but then nail up the drywall?
Then I have to admit their advantages, they are dimensionally stable and can be plastered completely smoothly at the edges, cheap, fireproof, etc. And I know how much worse it gets with, for example, chipboard; it is installed since old times in places around the house, and it has cracked at the seams almost everywhere.
I have a screw gun but found it went so much worse with it that I went back to a regular drill. And you have to be so damn careful, and yet the screw still tends to go crooked. You have to press like hell on the drill to get the damn Phillips screw to go in, and then you still have to go back and forth a few times to get it to sit properly. The base is 10mm OSB on a very uneven plank wall. (I use OSB for both time and convenience reasons. I can pay 65/m2 for OSB and get it even enough for drywall in a few minutes, or spend half a day per drywall messing with strips of Tretex and crap, and it still turns out poorly).
So yesterday I was just patching a small piece in a tight spot where I couldn't fit the drill, and thought, "oh well, I'll nail it." And it was like a dream, even in that difficult space the nail head laid perfectly so that it pressed the paper without tearing it. So as a test, I placed some more in other spots. Same result. Used a thin wire nail, 50x2. It went fast too, and oh how much kinder it was on my now quite tired arm.
Why shouldn't I just continue with this all the way, for example, screw in the OSB but then nail up the drywall?
Renovated the garage and they had nailed up the drywall with, as mentioned above, roofing nails, or if there even was or had been something called "drywall nails"? It looked like roofing nails, but the head was marginally smaller in my eyes than on "regular" roofing nails, and the nail itself was ribbed to prevent it from creeping out.
If you're going to nail, make sure it's something with a large head, e.g., roofing nails, I suspect the strength will be so-so with regular wire nails. But the quickest and best is probably still with the screw gun.
Possibly a roofing nail gun could be the quickest possible way to put up a drywall sheet, but I don't believe in that at all in practice. Anyone willing to try?
If you're going to nail, make sure it's something with a large head, e.g., roofing nails, I suspect the strength will be so-so with regular wire nails. But the quickest and best is probably still with the screw gun.
Possibly a roofing nail gun could be the quickest possible way to put up a drywall sheet, but I don't believe in that at all in practice. Anyone willing to try?
There used to be special drywall nails that were grooved.
https://www.beijerbygg.se/privat/sv/produkter/fästdon/spik/spik-övrigt-/gipsspik
https://www.beijerbygg.se/privat/sv/produkter/fästdon/spik/spik-övrigt-/gipsspik
Apparently still exists, maybe I should try it.
Would prefer to screw in the ceiling though.
Would prefer to screw in the ceiling though.
I have screwed a fair amount of drywall with a screwdriver and haven't had any major problems. You don't need to press hard either. Make sure to have proper drywall screws and the right bits. Set the screwdriver for screwing and not drilling, and not at full speed. There are also bit holders that allow you to set the depth so you don't drive the screw in too far.
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· Korpilombolo
· 3 724 posts
Here is the reason not to nail up drywall explained. But before the drywall screw came, the drywall was probably nailed up in all contexts.
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· östergötland
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Sounds like there might be wrong/worn-out bits in the machines... There are quite a few different crosses...
@TheGame ohhh it's off to Biltema to get a pair of those!
@plåtrickard, @lordi Trust me, I use a new ph2-bit just as indicated on the screw box (Arvid Nilsson, supposed to be an OK brand?). When the screw goes through the drywall and starts to set into the OSB, it immediately becomes difficult and the bit slips out of the groove and stops turning, requiring me to press like crazy to prevent it. The bit is new and has straight sharp edges. I always have the drill (Makita 18v) on the lowest possible torque that can still turn the screw, often about 12-14/16. I also tried a bit with the impact driver, but it was clearly worse.
@plåtrickard, @lordi Trust me, I use a new ph2-bit just as indicated on the screw box (Arvid Nilsson, supposed to be an OK brand?). When the screw goes through the drywall and starts to set into the OSB, it immediately becomes difficult and the bit slips out of the groove and stops turning, requiring me to press like crazy to prevent it. The bit is new and has straight sharp edges. I always have the drill (Makita 18v) on the lowest possible torque that can still turn the screw, often about 12-14/16. I also tried a bit with the impact driver, but it was clearly worse.

