I'm going to build a trellis and I'm not sure if this will hold. All the slats are the same size, i.e., 28x45 mm. I don't know if 28x45 mm on the vertical slat will hold for all the horizontal slats, i.e., when the slats shrink, will the vertical slat be pulled away from the post or break? Should I use thicker timber?

According to the sketch, more than a thousand words, but the arrows show where I should drive screws into the post along the entire vertical slat. But maybe that's overkill?
 
  • Diagram showing a trellis construction with vertical slats measuring 28x45 mm, detailing screw placements on a 180 cm high post with 150 cm slats.
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I don't think there's any danger. Additionally, wood shrinks significantly less in length than in width. Pre-drilling screw holes in the slats is probably a good idea since the screw comes quite close to the end, possibly offset the hole a bit inward. But having screws so close together in the vertical piece seems unnecessary to me.

If you feel like it, please share the result, as I'm planning to build something similar this summer (or next summer).
 
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That's right, you can see it on the terrace.

Yes, absolutely. Planning to start sometime in May/June if everything goes according to plan. Going to replace the grout with hard grout once the warm weather arrives. Quite a lot of work with small children that also need attention.
 
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I thought I'd take the opportunity to ask about the posts. What should be used to attach them, through bolts or lag screws?

All posts are 70x70 and all corners are 100x100. Some say through bolts, then it sits securely and then some. Some say two lag screws on one side, as long as the post fits perfectly in the post shoe and isn't sky-high and is a board...

My post shoes have a base plate, which is then attached with expansion bolts.

The neatest would be lag screws...
 
V vincentt said:
Thought I'd take the opportunity to ask, the posts. What should be used to fasten them, through bolts or coach screws?

All posts are 70x70 and all corners are 100x100. Some say through bolts and then they sit securely and beyond. Some say two coach screws on one side, as long as the post fits perfectly in the post base and is not sky-high and is plank...

My post bases have bottom plates which are then fastened with expansion bolts.

The nicest would be coach screws...
Buttons are likely to blow over with coach screws.
 
O olofh said:
Learn buttons toppling with French screw
Woot? (o_O). Call me slow and morning tired, but can you elaborate on that =).
 
I'm closing the thread for this year, the timber that was supposed to arrive 2 weeks ago hasn't arrived, and my vacation is coming to an end. I canceled the order and got the money back, I'll fix the trellis next year. Maybe it'll be even better =).

I tend to close threads I start, especially for projects. It's all too common for the OP to disappear without a trace and leave a thread completely unresolved.

I'll open the thread next year instead.
 
I am reopening this thread. I've managed to find some time and motivation to fix the trellis.

Now, this might not be so important for other readers, but for those who want to build the same or something similar, like "nybyggarn," it could be interesting.

I drew this up in Sketchup and got the drawing approved by the site manager "Frugan."

Now, it's not 100% but to get a 3D perception, it's better than nothing. However, the timber and measurements are accurate.

3D rendering of a wooden trellis design with slats, showing placement decisions. A person is standing behind the structure, illustrating scale. 3D Sketchup illustration of a corner trellis with horizontal slats. A person stands inside, with labels indicating boundary directions. Drawing of a woman standing next to a partially constructed wooden trellis with horizontal slats at different heights, indicating a backyard project design.

We thought for a long time about how the slats on the short side should be placed, either inside or outside. We live in a terraced house and have a neighbor we don't really get along with, so why should he see the nice side of the trellis on his side? Also, I would have to be on his property tinkering and tweaking. So we're aiming to have the slats on the inside. However, I spontaneously feel it looks odd, considering the slats on the long side facing the "pathway" are on the outside. It might raise questions among passersby. But it might just be an illusion... Is it me or what... What do you guys think?

3D sketch of a slatted trellis design with vertical posts, shown next to a woman on the phone. The trellis is on a paved surface. Four wooden posts in a garden, partially set up for a trellis against a yellow house with a hose reel, bench, and table on a paved patio. 3D model of a wooden trellis with vertical posts and horizontal slats, showcasing different placement on short vs long sides, created in Sketchup.

I've started to set up the posts, at least. It's a damn hassle to get it straight and fit the posts into the post brackets. I think I've never used a rasp so much in such a short time. Shimming was also needed... Biltema's post brackets weren't entirely straight, but they were cheap compared to Bauhaus.
 
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Also thinking about building a trellis to create privacy screening against a parking lot. How did the result turn out?
What kind of slats did you use?

I'm a bit concerned about the building permit, planning to have about 50% open space, and the municipality writes 70%, but I think I'll go ahead anyway.
 
Well... I guess I'm almost done... *gulp*. I've been working on it since November. Just haven't had the time. Take it as it comes.

Wooden garden trellis under construction in a backyard, with a patio area, plants, and yellow house in the background.

I'll fix the rest now during the spring. But to answer your question. I live in Järfälla so 50 percent air and 50 percent material. If they haven't changed it. Even if they have, building permits for trellises/fences are wild west here. I checked and many in Viksjö don't have building permits. There is a site where you can search for building permits and I did and checked on addresses that should have permits... Guess what I found? None... Long answer to a short question...
 
Looks nice, I even think I might have walked past there. I did exactly the same, you can check building permits on hitta.se and there it was very mixed who had them and who didn't.
 
Thank you, now I really need to get it fixed. Btw, have they changed the rules again? They changed a round before to make it a bit vague but it was within the frame of "as much air as the material...". Ish...

Sweet! Knock and say hi one day =)
 
I read on the municipality's website that it should just be sparse and airy, so it's probably a matter of interpretation then. They updated the page in March. I'm pretty sure I read 70% air earlier.

I usually walk with the kids down towards the meadows, so maybe we'll say hi sometime.
 
So they have changed it again. Before these "70%" (2019), it was 50/50 (2018)... and before that... they wrote something else. However, no memory remains since it was 2017. Every year it seems Järfälla fiddles with that rule.

Ah... interpretation question, yes. Don't paint it in bright colors and you'll probably manage =). BTW... the slats have shrunk by 3 mm in 1 year... so the gap became 31 mm (28+3). It got a liiiittle larger... You can see it if you look long enough, so get the screwdriver out again.
 
Well, it was settled this weekend. Now we can close this thread. Thanks for all the input.

Had to move quite a few slats to get the right height. Redo, get it right, and it'll be great in the end =)

The mailbox will be the ugly duckling.

Outdoor patio with slatted wooden fence, sunshade, table, and bench. A child's pushchair and a pressure washer are visible. Wooden slatted fence with adjusted heights, following recent DIY renovation, against a backdrop of trees and clear sky.
 
  • Wooden slatted fence with adjusted height, overshadowed by a beige fabric sunshade, with a wheelbarrow and table in a paved outdoor area.
  • Wooden slatted fence in a backyard with patio furniture, stroller, and garden hose reel; sunshade canopy overhead on a sunny day.
  • Wooden slat fence in front of a yellow house, with a children's playhouse and bikes in the background, near a paved area with a mailbox.
  • Wooden slat fence in front of a yellow house with green awning and cobblestone path, showcasing recent renovation efforts.
  • Outdoor patio with a newly built slatted wooden fence, a table with a tool, a bench, and a canopy. A pressure washer and garden tools are visible.
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