Hello!

I'm thinking of tearing down the wall between the kitchen and living room in my newly purchased apartment.
I've had trouble finding an architect/engineer who can provide input, even for payment...

Condominium built around 1958, on the 4th of 8 floors, 57 sqm, two-room apartment.

The wall is 10 cm thick, almost 2 m long. It's easy to drill through the entire wall with a screwdriver, as porous as a sandcastle, sounds hollow when you knock on it. I suspect it might be lightweight concrete all the way through(?). In the technical description, I believe it says that load-bearing interior walls are 20 cm thick, so I feel that it should be safe... but I'm not the only one who would be affected if I mess it up.

I've been in contact with the housing association board, who unfortunately have nothing to contribute. It's entirely up to me to investigate whether the wall is load-bearing or not and ensure that cutting/demolition is done safely.

VERY grateful for help in assessing whether the wall is load-bearing or not, or alternatively, getting tips on where I can turn to get an assessment without going broke.

Below is the drawing and technical description I received from the city planning office in Täby municipality.

Drawing (I have circled the apartment and the wall I plan to tear down):
Apartment floor plan showing multiple rooms, a highlighted kitchen and living room area, with a circled wall labeled "Riva Denna" intended for removal.

Technical description:
Blueprint and technical description of an apartment, including architectural details and a highlighted wall planned for demolition.

Best regards!
 
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Get in touch with a structural engineer to conduct calculations on the wall's load-bearing capacity. I would assume it is load-bearing! Otherwise, there are many meters between the walls with no support.
 
And I would guess the opposite :)

I believe that the walls between the kitchen and living room and between the bedroom and living room are non-bearing.
That is, what is referred to in the description as
"Inner walls, others, 7 cm plates", which are not counted as
"Inner walls, bearing, 20 cm btg II K 200".
Measure the wall thickness and you'll know!

But I agree with thomas33, why not consult an expert who can confirm this on-site?

PS
Welcome to the Building Houses forum NordBo!

It's amazing. It seems no one can resist tearing down a wall and completely remodeling the kitchen in their new apartment. The new national sport :)

(Yes, I've remodeled and renovated a kitchen twice too, but not until after 8 years)
 
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To determine if the wall is load-bearing from the drawings, the construction drawings mentioned in the text are also needed. They should be available at the municipality.

Then it doesn't sound like it would be load-bearing, because it is weak with a 10cm load-bearing wall made of lightweight concrete in an 8-story building.
 
Thank you for all the quick responses so far (and the welcome).

I am hardly alone in opening up between the kitchen and living room.

I'll try to get more drawings done after work.
 
Received over 80 drawings from the city planning office. Have converted and filtered out those that are not construction drawings. Is there anyone who understands these? (see original post for details about my apartment and which wall I want to demolish).

Technical Information:
Technical building document from Täby Municipality, 1957, detailing construction specifications for a residential building, including materials and measurements.

Drawing K-9: building E, technical drawing, basement joists
Technical drawing of a building's construction plan, showing floor layouts and structural details. Includes references to K-9 and K-10 plans for details.

Drawing K-2: building C but referenced in drawing K-9 for basement joist details
Technical architectural drawing showing floor plan and structural details of a building, with focus on basement level and cross-sectional views.

Drawing K-10: building E, floor 1 joists
Architectural technical drawing showing floor and structural details, including basement and first-floor joists for building E, mentioned in post as K-9 drawing.

Drawing K-3: building C, referenced in drawing K-10 for floor 1 joist details
Architectural floor plan showing detailed construction drawings, with specific references to beams and walls for a basement and first floor of building E.

more drawings to come in supplementary posts soon.
 
Here are more construction drawings. However, I cannot find drawing 20-10, which is referenced in several other drawings and the technical description. I hope it can still work out.

So can someone from this material assess whether I risk collapsing the entire building if I remove the wall between the living room and the kitchen? (see the original post)

K-12: building E, Floor over level 2
Engineering drawing of house E, showing floor plans, structure, and wall reinforcements for floors 4-7, including cross-sections and measurements.

K-13: building E, Frame and Wall Reinforcement levels 4-7
Blueprint of house E showing floor plan and structural reinforcements for floors 4-7, including stairwell and wall sections, with technical details.

K-14: building E: construction drawing.
Architectural drawing of house E, detailing floor plan and structural framework, including specifications for load-bearing walls and staircase placement.

K-7: building C, complements drawing K-14 (building E)
Architectural drawing of house floor plan and structural details including load-bearing walls and reinforcements for floors 4-7, house E blueprint.
 
larsbj said:
To determine if the wall is load-bearing based on drawings, the construction drawings mentioned in the text are also needed.
They should be available at the municipality.

Then it doesn't sound like it would be load-bearing, because a 10cm load-bearing wall of lightweight concrete in an 8-story building seems too weak

I have uploaded drawings that I got from the municipality (see separate post). Do you think they would be useful?
 
The wall in question is 7 cm Siporex panel with a density of 0.6 kg/dm3.

The text specifies a 7 cm Siporex wall with a volumetric weight of 0.6 kg/dm3.

If it is load-bearing, I will eat my hat :)
 
Are there any neighbors, below or above you, who have removed this wall?
If so, you should be able to remove your wall as well.
 
From this drawing, it is clear that the vertical load-bearing parts are:
stairwell,
apartment separating walls,
exterior walls
and a column between the living room and kitchen.

Blueprint showing load-bearing elements: stairwell, apartment separating walls, exterior walls, and a pillar between living room and kitchen.
 
Based on those k-drawings, the wall is not load-bearing.
 
KnockOnWood said:
The wall in question is a 7 cm Siporex board with a density of 0.6 kg/dm3.

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If it is load-bearing, I will eat my hat :)
From your hat comment, I gather no demolition hammer is needed to take down this opponent(?)

...A sand shovel or very coarse sandpaper should suffice, alternatively a mediocre karate kick. :D
 
Sledgehammer and respirator.
 
Maybe a reciprocating saw would be the right tool.

But you have read my, and thomas33's reservations:
Consult an expert who can confirm this on site!
 
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