We are going to renovate the kitchen and have a small piece of wall that would be better gone.
We can't see anything on the drawings that would indicate it's load-bearing...
Can you tell from the photo if it looks load-bearing :)

Wall section under repair with exposed wooden beams and plaster, questioning if it's load-bearing.
 
Post the drawings instead!
 
No, unfortunately I can't do that.
A drawing showing where the wall is located in the house would have been better.

Normally, walls that run in the same direction as the trusses are not load-bearing (however, they can still provide lateral stability), while a central wall in the middle of the house perpendicular to the trusses is often load-bearing. But there are also self-supporting trusses, so nothing can be stated with certainty from this picture.
 
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The house is a Nässjö house from -79. It likely came in loose ready-made modules.
 
Suspected it, looks like the wall is between two modules.

Now, I don't know module houses, but it feels like this wall would be load-bearing.
Drawings provide more clues.
 
Unfortunately no scanner, so it ended up being a photo....
It's the short wall snippet in the kitchen upstairs.

Our thought is if it is load-bearing it should be solvable with a more robust ending of the wall....

Architectural floor plan showing two levels, with various labeled rooms including kitchen, living room, bedrooms, and bathrooms; part of a house renovation discussion.
Sorry... just thought I was inserting a picture :) don't know how to remove it.
 
  • Blueprint showing structural details and measurements of a wall section, possibly related to a kitchen renovation project on the upper floor.
  • Blueprint of a kitchen wall segment, possibly load-bearing, photographed instead of scanned, showing detailed architectural drawings and measurements.
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We are also trying to get help from Nässjö's house but it's been quite a while since then :)
They said it could very well be self-supporting, that was the "normal".
It would have been easier if that were the case...
 
If you plan to remove the wall anyway, you can test by brutally sawing through a stud with a handsaw: if the saw binds, the wall is load-bearing. Then you must stop sawing, set up a support, and properly brace before cutting more.
 
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Spontaneously based on the drawings, my marking in red is probably load-bearing, according to the truss drawings it mentions glulam beams over openings between modules. and I would think that such beams are in the yellow marking. Green should be OK to demolish.

Then, just because I noticed it and thought it was smartly done, you can see that there's only plumbing in one module (Blue).

Floor plan with colored markings: red possibly load-bearing, yellow and blue indicating beams, green deemed removable. Blue highlights a single wet area module.
 
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Thank you, that was the answer we didn't want :)
Red is what we want to remove...

We think we have too little workspace today and are considering making a full wall of cabinets where the workspace is now and a kitchen island in the middle. The table is already outside the kitchen.
That means today there is a lot of floor space, little workspace, and kitchen cabinets in the kitchen.

We realize we have to work with the water as it's only in the middle as you've seen.
We think the slope will work, but of course, we'll need to calculate it more.

There is an alternative drawing where the wall doesn't exist, but then there is a room at the end of the stairs, so it might be load-bearing instead.

If it is load-bearing, can we put a "steel pole" at the end so we can still remove that bit of the wall...

Or should I give up and be forced to keep the current dysfunctional shape? The husband thinks it's adequate, but I've really disliked the kitchen's design since we bought the house almost 20 years ago.
 
Unfortunately, you don't always get what you want ;)

But do you want to keep the green wall? It might be possible to put a post where "red" and "green" meet. It depends on the circumstances how complicated it gets.

It feels like a lot of work to get rid of 60cm of wall.
Isn't it enough to build an "island" or "peninsula" where the dining table is on the drawing? Can't you take advantage of this wall to make it a full-cabinet wall instead?

I don't think it seems that bad spontaneously, but on the other hand, I haven't lived with it for 20 years ;)
Feel free to post a sketch of how you want it instead!
 
This solution we've been considering now depends on the wall section disappearing. Otherwise, it will be too cramped. It's only 3.40 wide.

The patio door and the staircase set their limitations. Even that doesn't quite work with the idea we have now.

Kitchen design plan showing a modern kitchen island with sink and stovetop, adjacent wall cabinets with integrated oven, and marble backsplash.

Blueprint of a kitchen layout with dimensions, counter spaces, and an L-shaped wall section, showcasing limited workspace area and a small section near the fridge.

If we are going to do something similar to today, you can remove the corner and thus get more workspace. But then we still have a lot of floor space.
The area in front of the fridge freezer is too small to do anything on but big enough to irritate me :)
I want "kitchen" surfaces and not floor space.
 
As you write, we initially thought of creating something island-like in front of the window. But 3.40 - the depth of the fridge that opens + walkway leaves not much left to work with.

We have tried having a table there but it gets awkward with the fridge and moving to the table.

The kitchen only works if you are alone, that's what we want to avoid.
 
Yes, unfortunately, historically kitchens are designed for one person rather than a family.

So it's 3.40m if you remove the fridge? Then I agree that it doesn't leave a lot of space.
With 3x60cm + fridge, you have 1m left to move around, I'm not sure if that's too little, and with that, you get two more work surfaces. It should be enough in combination with keeping the existing surfaces (two more).

We have a similar issue in our kitchen where the original layout looked like this:
Floor plan showing a kitchen with dimensions and layout, including a removed island, and proposed renovation for modern design and space efficiency.
But in the kitchen renovation, they removed the "island" and made a counter surface on the "fridge wall" (and removed the freezer completely :|).
We are considering installing a kitchen "island" again, but in a more modern style.
 
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We think we have too little work surface today and are considering making a full cabinet wall where the work surface is today and a kitchen island in the middle. The table is already outside the kitchen.
That is, today there is a lot of floor space and little work surface and kitchen cabinets in the kitchen.
But do you really get more work surface and less floor space with your proposal?
It looks to me like you are removing three tall cabinets (3 x 60 cm) and a few base cabinets (80? cm) and replacing them with a kitchen island that is about the same length, so the total length with cabinets is pretty much unchanged.

There are some other drawbacks with your proposal, such as too small a distance between the cooktop and the sink, and it's difficult to cook at the stove while keeping track of when something is done in the oven.
 
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