Hello!
I need to build a garage so I have something to work on during the winter months. Now, I have a fresh barn and in it, a nice cow barn! Whole and fine slab.
I'm thinking of opening up two doors and building a double garage there instead! Break away the cow stalls and make room for cars and snowmobiles
HOWEVER, I ran into an issue.. There is a beam in the ceiling and column supports coming down, and one of them is really in the way..
It's the column closest in the picture that I would PREFER to remove or alternatively move.
I'm thinking of building an interior wall that will align with the next column.. It’s only 2m between the columns, so it’s quite tight!
Anyone knowledgeable on the subject who could give me a bit of help? I'll add more pictures so you can get an idea of how it looks.
What you can probably do is install a heavier beam with just one support in the middle.
If you remove a pillar, there is a high risk that the existing beam will bend downwards due to the weight from the floor above.
It seems like primarily you need help with sizing.
Secondly, are the wooden beams in the ceiling healthy!
As the previous speaker mentioned, what will be on the upper floor!
No one wants the house to collapse like a house of cards.
The wooden beams in the ceiling feel solid! The dimensions of the beams are 200x200 timber.
On the upper floor there is basically not supposed to be anything! It's completely empty now... Maybe a snowmobile?
If you were to remove the support, there is 5 meters between the other post and the wall.
The garage is planned to be 5x6 meters.
Are you sure that the wooden beams are really healthy? That's exactly what was done in a relative's outbuilding when the roof beams became rotten due to moisture from the animals and started to sway.
I think you should probably hire professional help to calculate your renovation.
There might be free programs online, but an old building can make it difficult to adapt to today's standards!
I've pretty much decided to keep it as it is.. It'll just be a garage for one car, and then we'll have snowmobiles next to it instead of two cars. After all, you rarely need to work on two cars at the same time
However, I have a question! I noticed there's a crack on the beam, I think you can see it if you look at the last picture. Is it possible to rust repair and reinforce a beam right at the crack? Or does it need to be replaced?
If possible, I thought I could try to grind away the worst rust and hammer paint the visible beam.
You can also fully utilize the hammer paint (Hammerite) and just brush away dust, dirt, and loose rust. Then simply apply at least two coats. That's what I've done in our stable, and it has worked excellently so far (estimated 3-5 years, my memory is good but short).
Aha Yes, avoiding the roundabout and spraying a bunch of sparks in the barn is good! Wire brush and hammer paint! Perfect! Does anyone know where one can buy a winch that can be attached to a beam?
My assessment is that that iron beam and the pillars have only functioned to support the wooden beams in order to carry several tens of tons of hay on top. 200 * 200 wooden beams that are in good condition will handle an empty upper floor without any problems. Just watch out so they are not infested with worms. Very common in old barns where moist air from the animals and the hay easily creates a poor environment.
cem77, I actually think the same as you! But I discovered something today when my friend came over to inspect.. There are only two wooden beams resting on that iron beam! The rest of the iron beam is about 2-4cm away from the remaining wooden beams.. Could it be that now that the barn is empty of hay and stuff upstairs, it has risen again?
However, the iron beam is of course wedged directly against the wooden beam on the nearest standing iron beam.
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