Hello.
I've been looking around a bit but haven't found a thread where all the information about when certain construction stages, materials, techniques, and bans began has been gathered.
Of course, it's difficult to set exact years, but it would be interesting to have an approximate timeline.
If you have your own questions, please ask them here, and maybe we can gather everything
I wonder:
1. When did they start using facade meter cabinets instead of having the meter panel inside?
2. When did they start using insulated slabs on the ground?
3. When did they start using mineral wool instead of sawdust as insulation?
4. When did they begin using studs instead of plank walls?
5. When did they stop using blåbetong?
6. When did they start using plastic pipes for drainage instead of concrete/cast iron?
7. When did they start using diffusion barriers?
8. When did they start draining?
I've been looking around a bit but haven't found a thread where all the information about when certain construction stages, materials, techniques, and bans began has been gathered.
Of course, it's difficult to set exact years, but it would be interesting to have an approximate timeline.
If you have your own questions, please ask them here, and maybe we can gather everything
I wonder:
1. When did they start using facade meter cabinets instead of having the meter panel inside?
2. When did they start using insulated slabs on the ground?
3. When did they start using mineral wool instead of sawdust as insulation?
4. When did they begin using studs instead of plank walls?
5. When did they stop using blåbetong?
6. When did they start using plastic pipes for drainage instead of concrete/cast iron?
7. When did they start using diffusion barriers?
8. When did they start draining?
1: latest end of the 60s
2: 80s?
3: latest 60s?
4: ?
5: manufacturing 75, usage 85
6: end of the 60s, 1st generation plastic pipes began to be used, cast iron pipes are still used today
7: ?
8: at least 60s?
2: 80s?
3: latest 60s?
4: ?
5: manufacturing 75, usage 85
6: end of the 60s, 1st generation plastic pipes began to be used, cast iron pipes are still used today
7: ?
8: at least 60s?
1: I have in mind the 80s.
2: In the mid-70s, although it already occurred in the 50s where competent consultants were involved. Slabs on grade is a USA imported method.
3: In the early 50s. Related to the next one.
4: Around 1950. The purpose was to free up more timber for export. The transition was governed through the state loans administered by the Housing Board. This was a major system shift that brought several things. A Standardized measurements, e.g., c/c 600 mm, so that panels always fit the studs. B Mineral wool in panels with standard measurements (in the walls). Stud frames are also a USA method.
5: I don't remember. Google Ytong.
6: A few years into the 70s.
7: Seriously in the 60s. The main reason was that the insulating capacity of mineral wool decreased when exposed to condensation. Requirements are included for the first time in BABS 1960. Initially, it was asphalt paper.
8: Ages ago, with clay pipes.
What younger people don't realize is that plastic hasn't existed for very long. Broadly first in the 70s.
2: In the mid-70s, although it already occurred in the 50s where competent consultants were involved. Slabs on grade is a USA imported method.
3: In the early 50s. Related to the next one.
4: Around 1950. The purpose was to free up more timber for export. The transition was governed through the state loans administered by the Housing Board. This was a major system shift that brought several things. A Standardized measurements, e.g., c/c 600 mm, so that panels always fit the studs. B Mineral wool in panels with standard measurements (in the walls). Stud frames are also a USA method.
5: I don't remember. Google Ytong.
6: A few years into the 70s.
7: Seriously in the 60s. The main reason was that the insulating capacity of mineral wool decreased when exposed to condensation. Requirements are included for the first time in BABS 1960. Initially, it was asphalt paper.
8: Ages ago, with clay pipes.
What younger people don't realize is that plastic hasn't existed for very long. Broadly first in the 70s.
4.
The framework structure began to emerge in the mid-1800s, enabled by the good availability of sawn timber thanks to all the new sawmills. However, it was used almost exclusively for simple buildings, outbuildings, etc., and was uninsulated. Timber frame (log construction) for residential houses started to decline towards the end of the 1800s, I guess that 1890-1900 is when the trend with plank frames began, and by about 1910 the transition was likely quite clear. And the timber shortage during World War I must have been the final death blow for log construction.
Then they continued mainly with plank frames in residential houses until the 1940s, during this decade the transition to framework occurred, first with chipboard insulation or other organic natural materials, to later be gradually replaced with mineral wool in the late 50s.
https://www.kulturmiljo-vard.se/byggnadsvard/stomme-och-fasad/trahusets-stomme
https://hallahus.se/renovera/stommen/
https://stockholmslansmuseum.se/byg...ar/exterioren-del-for-del/stomme/plankstomme/
The framework structure began to emerge in the mid-1800s, enabled by the good availability of sawn timber thanks to all the new sawmills. However, it was used almost exclusively for simple buildings, outbuildings, etc., and was uninsulated. Timber frame (log construction) for residential houses started to decline towards the end of the 1800s, I guess that 1890-1900 is when the trend with plank frames began, and by about 1910 the transition was likely quite clear. And the timber shortage during World War I must have been the final death blow for log construction.
Then they continued mainly with plank frames in residential houses until the 1940s, during this decade the transition to framework occurred, first with chipboard insulation or other organic natural materials, to later be gradually replaced with mineral wool in the late 50s.
https://www.kulturmiljo-vard.se/byggnadsvard/stomme-och-fasad/trahusets-stomme
https://hallahus.se/renovera/stommen/
https://stockholmslansmuseum.se/byg...ar/exterioren-del-for-del/stomme/plankstomme/
Fasadmätarskåp must have been earlier than 1975 since my parents' house has it. But I have some friends with houses from the 40s and 50s with the meter inside. So maybe around the 60s?J justusandersson said:
We have the meter inside our house built in 1966. There is likely a small overlap, but our houses were considered extremely modern at the time.
Interestingly enough, on that note, Ellevio states that our service cable is a paper-insulated cable in the ground. I can see the pipe it comes in under the house, but maybe it ends just outside the garage slab?
Interestingly enough, on that note, Ellevio states that our service cable is a paper-insulated cable in the ground. I can see the pipe it comes in under the house, but maybe it ends just outside the garage slab?
The Housing Board, established in 1948, was crucial for driving the transition from plank to stud frames. It is very unusual to find stud frames in 40s houses and plank frames in 50s counterparts. However, nothing is black or white. Mineral wool already existed in the early 50s, which I can personally attest to. When my parents built a house in 1955, it was with a stud frame, mineral wool, and gypsum boards (16 mm) on the inside. The insulation in the beams, however, was wood shavings. The mineral wool came in large cardboard boxes that I had to take to the salvage collector and sell. In addition, I had to return an enormous amount of empty beer bottles...
When it comes to mätarskåp, there is probably a large local variation depending on the electricity company.
Yes, and quite a few meters are moved out when work needs to be done on the meter board. Both Eon and the municipal electricity company require it to be moved out if work on the incoming cable or meter board is to be doneJ justusandersson said:
Our house is built in -69/-70, we have a recessed facade meter cabinet. The inner walls in the basement were (one wall is left to demolish) blåbetong. We have plastic sewer pipes, had cast iron wells. The plastic pipes go all the way to the transfer point, where it transitions to concrete pipes. The drainage pipes are/were clay pipes, about 3dm long, the pipe row that goes right under the house is still there, around the footing it has been replaced except where the attached garage is.Demmpa said:
Ohh, they must have been quite Americanized.J justusandersson said:
Drywall must also have come from the USA, and it was probably somewhat new and modern even in the USA at that time...
In my youth, I had a girlfriend whose grandmother had the first private water closet in the town we lived in. It must be kind of cool to be the absolute first with some clear modernity.
Why should the meter cabinet be on the outside? I have the meter cabinet with main fuses indoors, but if you crawl under the house in the crawl space, there is an additional fuse box with three main fuses. Why?Ramnemark said:
Yes, and quite a few meters are moved outside when work needs to be done on the meter board. Both Eon and the municipal electric company require it to be moved outside if work on the incoming cable or meter board is to be done
Didn't they have sparsely spaced panels on the walls at that time, is it the thicker gypsum board that replaced the panel?J justusandersson said:
Our house built in 59-60 has mineral wool in the attic, floor joists, and walls. There are fiberglass mats with a paper surface layer of varying thickness. The walls are framed with sparsely spaced panels, paper with an aluminum layer, and then gypsum boards around 10 mm.